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Absolute poppycock.

I hate to do this to you, but I [iknow[/i you're talking BS so I have no choice.

Are you sure it was Luke Burgess you were talking to about this? Could you have mistaken him for someone else again?

Hmm could be. That blouse and skirt was a bit confusing.

Never mind, I'll just sit smugly in the knowldege that there is BS all over this thread, with your name all over it.

Wait for it, wait for it.........1.....2....3

Disappointed to see Burgess go although he was always going to sign for a NRL club at the end of the season. Cross was a poor signing and not up to the Rhinos standads. By releasing him it frees up an overseas place so does this mean a possible signing during this season and what position?

Nope. Don't bring my into your Gareth dispute.

This is a friendly one between me and him. One which I am quite confident on the knowledge this time.

Is this Phil Daly? only I was talking to him in the Long Bar the other night...

Not when you were dissing TVOC for bemoaning the loss of Broughton to keep Donald.

I'd already seen what Broughton had to offer from his loan spells at Hull. Like our coaching staff at the time I saw little to get excited about. In fact, my abiding memory is of that speedster Kevin Sinfield rounding him to score a try.

You do realise the can of worms you just opened?

I once rounded Willie Poching at Headingley, but I wouldn't fancy beating him in an 80M sprint. I would have rounded you on many an occasion, but frankly I can't run that far...

What you do in your personal life is no concern of mine. I don't judge.

Jealousy is a green eyed monster Gareth...

Quote ="G1"You do realise the can of worms you just opened? '" Do you remember those spot the difference puzzles: Here's one www.engagesuperleague.co.uk/stat ... eason=2011 Not a lot in it really.

Quote ="G1"You do realise the can of worms you just opened? '" Do you remember those spot the difference puzzles: Here's one www.engagesuperleague.co.uk/stat ... eason=2011 Not a lot in it really.

The most telling line from the YEP article r.e. Burgess is...

[i"We have always known he is ambitious to go to the NRL next year, we have absolutely no problem with that, he would leave with our best wishes. He made plain his desire to go to Australia, so we have always been planning to be without him in the longer-term."[/i

Seems pretty simple to me. If this is the "transition year" we've been constantly saying is happening, then we're transitioning to life without Burgess. Simples.

Shall we all collect our tears and ship them to Norfolk?

Was the transition supposed to be in personel or in style?

The days of watching Kirke as a Leeds prop and Burgess out on loan can't come soon enough.

Is Burgess better than Kirke? Yes.

Is Burgess staying at the club? No.

Should we be investing time, money, resources and energy into helping Burgess improve? No.

Kear wants Burgess. www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/sport ... _1_3487577

Kear wants Burgess. www.wakefieldexpress.co.uk/sport ... _1_3487577

Fine by me. It's basic business... if an employee hands in their notice then it is highly likely that their heart and mind will be elsewhere.

You do not;
i) Give them any important jobs to do.
ii) Heap any expectation on them to deliver.
iii) Spend any time or money developing their skills.

You do;
i) Prevent them from being around other, more settled, colleagues.
ii) Remove any level of responsibility.
iii) Allow them to leave at the earliest possible opportunity.

Burgess effectively handed his notice in. It's as simple as that.

Should we be using the contracted talents of a young impressive forward to improve our team's chances in this years SL?........YES

Should we be cutting our noses off to spite our faces, simply because he has expressed a desire to play down under?.......NO

Mate, this years Super League has long gone! And if, by some fluke, we do well in the play-offs/CC I very much doubt Burgess would've been the contributing fact to that.

We need to start building for the future, with players that want to be involved in that future.

I know but I haven't been aound much recently so have missed what's been going on.
I see both you and tvoc are willing to continue the old debate, I was just wondering if you had mellowed towards tvoc's position on internal vs external recruitment.

That if they don't perform, they'll be out the door? Unlike those who do?

Agreed, the SL looks very much a lost cause, but the CC is still on the cards. But you don't help the cause by letting a very good and improved young player take up a spot at a potential rival, without having a better replacement in the offing. Perhaps GH has, and we will all be applauding his fine business acumen. Until then, for me at least, there's a question mark over his current asset/man management skills.

In Burgess's case I would disagree about his level of commitment. He's shown some good form this year, and is desperate to be in the shop window if he's going to get a gig in the NFL. He is going to be performing right up to the day he signs on that contract, and I would rather it was for us than anyone else.

Promoting young players is fine by me. If there good enough...they're old enough! So far though, that's more aspirational than reality at HQ.

Anyone watch SOO yesterday - maybe the future is smaller more mobile forwards - not big lumbering lads?

having said that Matt Scott looked pretty good yesterday?

That Eamonn McManus fellow over the hill is not much of a business man then is he?