Innit though!

Careful Biff, look at the potential punishments that could be handed out in that part of the world :

- A night in the stocks

- The ducking stool

- The Cat O'Nine Tails

- Being burned at the stake as a witch etc.

It all depends on how harsh the Village Elders are feeling that day. And if they need a blood sacrifice to ensure a good harvest.

that'll be a no then. Case closed. Next case please

But killing Biff won't bring back their Apples !

I told you, i'm big enough to leave it and not drag old crap up. We all have idiot fans somewhere among us.

You throw out a veiled accusation that Leeds fans partake in homophobic chanting, suggest that there is evidence that substantiates your claim then, when challenged to produce said evidence instantly dismiss it.

Whatever respectability you had as a reasoned and creditable poster is no more.

I originally gave you the benefit of the doubt but you failed and now will be treated with the contempt you deserve.

Small town boy with huge shoulder chip – by the way do you see much of the McCloud chap?

Search a certain video hosting site for, Leeds Rhinos Darts Song (with added lyrics) and Leon Pryce Song. There's your evidence. Glad to help.

I'd already said that I was prepared to leave it, I know we all have idiot fans. I'm not the one jumping on the band wagon wanting to tar all fans with the same brush, it's you lot that do that. Thanks to Tigersalltheway for giving you the info needed to back up my claim. Is this now the point where we all harp on for ever and a day about Leeds fans being all the same, you want chucking out of the league, every time i go to Leeds i get raped and mugged, you're just a city full of inbreeds, you're the scum of rugby league or do we now admit we all have idiot fans?

All of us?

Thank you - it seems marshman was unable to provide this evidence for some reason, leaving his reputation as a credible poster debatable to say the lease and his reliance on other posters to 'help him out' does nothing to pursaude us otherwise.

You're the only one who spotted it!

You don't even know when you've been caught. Hook line and sinker yesterday mate. I opened the door, pointed you all at it and off you all went. Go back and read the thread and you'll see. I could have pointed you to the link days ago, I could even up load it if the original post was deleted. I told you to leave it, stop harping on about Cas fans and tarring us all with the same brush since Leeds have just as many idiot fans. There is evidence, always was. Some people do actually think before they post!



Say all you want about me being a credible poster or not, that won't divert from the real point of the thread. The point being of course, we all have problem fans to deal with, every club. All the finger pointing again from a certain few on here and none are anywhere to be seen right now. I imagine they'll pop on later and condone the Leeds fans in question and we (genuine fans) can get back to talking about the rugby.

I haven't clicked on the video site , but I clearly remember the Leon song . My opinion is that it wasn't homophobic . There was nothing in the song that suggested that such activities are wrong or immoral etc etc .
The words were merely suggesting what could have happened if he had gone to prison .
At the time I even suggested an alternative to use after it was revealed that he wasn't going down .

Oh Leon Pryce ain't going down
Oh Leon Pryce ain't going down
He would have loved it in the showers
But Leon Pryce ain't going down

Nothing homophobic in that . Just ' terrace banter ' . Having a go at somebody because of their homosexuality is though .
If the original song had contained words along the lines of 'you are a dirty fkin faggot' then I would have been 'actively involved' in getting whoever was singing it to stop . There is no place for that kind of chanting on the terraces , nor anywhere else .

I could be wrong .. I usually am .

I think the homosexual chants were referring to the Darts Song which contains the lyrics "Sean long is a gay, he's a closet gay and a pedophile".

Have you been drinking mate, you're really not making much sense at all.

I asked you to substantiate your claim - you didn't.

I informed you that you had lost your credibility for lacking the ability to substantiate your claim while another poster did it for you.

Now you come back with this (above) bollox - genuine fan or not you have just made yourself look extremely foolish.

It wasn't Leeds Rhinos fans that sung those chants, it was some "travelling friends" that just happened to be there at those exact moments.....they had nicked the shirts the previous day........

You mean the ones that the First bus drivers had been reporting to their gaffers for the previous fortnight or so don't you . I could never understand why the First gaffers never reported the chanting to the police .

Come on fella stop acting daft. I led you up the garden path mate. As I said, read what I wrote before carefully. I specifically asked for the Leeds forums link to troublesome Leeds fans (never provided), I asked why you only target Cas (no reason given except you all wanted to jump on us as if we're all the same), I hint that we all have some idiots (i already know you have, i've got a video of them), and I then suggest we leave it be and just agree that both sets of fans have idiots that we all have to deal with. All this was of course leading up to one moment (possibly two but you lot were never going to admit you have idiot fans also) and that one moment being the youtube video of your fans singing homophobic songs. Doesn't matter who posted it. Tigersalltheway did so, but I was just enjoying what many might consider to be trolling. You wanted the proof, it's there. You now want to go on some mission against me making out i'm not a respected poster anymore rather than dealing with the issue at hand. The one where RL has a few problems. Not Cas, not Salford, Not Wakey the whole of rugby league. Deal with the issue at hand please, don't go making the problem out to be less than it is. There's nothing worse than people suggesting that homophobic chanting is "alright". We've all agreed, right back when GT visited Cas, that homophobic chanting is wrong whatever it is.

I'll leave it with the Leeds club and Leeds fans to deal with the issue now. You've got problems!

Before tarring us all with the same brush, which I believe you're criticising others for doing have a read of the first couple of pages of this thread. Myself and othersdefend the majority of Cas fans and accept that all clubs have an idiotic element.

It seems to be true to Castleford form that rather than owning the problem, and trying to see it through to its solution, once again the fault of bad behaviour towards opposition at a Castleford game is blamed on someone else.

The issue at hand isnt what is clearly a very small amount of people singing a stupid song at Sean Long a minimum of 2 and a bit years ago, it is the opposition coach having stones thrown at it whilst leaving Castlefords ground along with the myriad of other crowd behavioural issues Castleford have had.

If you want to pretend that a song about Sean Long 2 years ago in any way mitigates what happens at Cas, thats fine, most people will dismiss you as an idiot.

My only surprise is that they havent blamed Gareth Thomas yet.

Ouch . The Sean Long song . Would that be the 'traveller , traveller , traveller' one , or ' the wheels on your house go round and round' one ? Never heard anyone else but Leeds fans give him that kind of abuse

. He gets it everywhere he goes . Heard it loads of times on the telly . It is 'terrace banter' nothing more , nothing less .

I think the difference is the quantity of people in the crowd chanting, the intention of the crowd and whether the it is obvious that the person the chants are being directed at will take offence to it.

No club is a saint. Every club has it's fair share, it's possibly just the ratios that make the difference.

Apologies mate, I did read your post and never ever do I treat all people the same as anyone else, let alone group fans like this. Any "tarring" I have done on here was either sarcastic and ironic (aimed at those who call all Cas fans bad), or totally unintentional (it's so easy to word things incorrectly and get pulled up later).

I know what you mean about the ratios but I don't see any difference between a section of the Castleford support directing a homophobic chant at Gareth Thomas and most of the Leeds southstand directing a chant at (say) Sean Edwards insinuating that he enjoys anal sex - a common enough chant over the years with its homophobic overtures, and directed at whoever was the play maker of the team we were playing that week.

Where Cas got shafted by the RFL was that it was directed at a high profile recent international RU convert who was also had a high international media profile regarding his sexual preference (see the coverage of his "outing" from America on Youtube) and it was televised/recorded, they were made an example of but they are not the only club who have been guilty of such things in the past.