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| Has Burgess or Sutton been mentioned anywhere or is it wishful thinking combined with them being higher quality non quota players?
Although we have shifted a lot of cap I'd guess Frawley and (should he arrive) croft, will command a significant increase from Austin and Sezer likewise PM would be on more than Nene I'd guess, and miller a fairly sizeable increase on Hooley though Goudemand would I'm guessing be well over 100k less than tetevano. Be interesting to see what capacity is left.
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| Burgess himself was saying he wanted to play in SL with Leeds last off season, Sutton I think is only mentioned as a UK qualified prop playing NRL.
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| Good signing, Salford look to have some financial problems. That’s probably the reason they are prepared to let Croft go. However I gather he is on a long term contract on decent money. That could be a stumbling block, looking on the bright side get Croft and we look to have the basis for a decent side.
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| We desperately need a proper prop to replace Tetevano otherwise we will get battered in the pack again.
And then all the excuses will be coming out that the halves and threequarters can't do much behind a beaten pack.
Sangare is simply not ready to be in the weekly 4 rotation. He should be 5th prop.
Burgess is exactly what we need. A pack leader.
Leeds fan. All his brothers back home now.
Final 2 - 3 years of his career in SL.
Makes a lot of sense.
I do get the feeling given the recent positive vibes around recruitment, despite multiple outgoings, that we have two more big (marquee) signings to come....
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| Quote ="Seth"Has Burgess or Sutton been mentioned anywhere or is it wishful thinking combined with them being higher quality non quota players?
Although we have shifted a lot of cap I'd guess Frawley and (should he arrive) croft, will command a significant increase from Austin and Sezer likewise PM would be on more than Nene I'd guess, and miller a fairly sizeable increase on Hooley though Goudemand would I'm guessing be well over 100k less than tetevano. Be interesting to see what capacity is left.'"
Hopefully we are using the three Marquee signings rule
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Yes, better all round player.'"
Actually being here would make him better…
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Burgess himself was saying he wanted to play in SL with Leeds last off season, Sutton I think is only mentioned as a UK qualified prop playing NRL.'"
My honest opinion is the Burgess is full of BS. Would be delighted to be proved wrong. Sutton is linked because it was reported that the Bulldogs were open to an early release a couple of months ago. Search "Sutton to Super League" and you'll find it. He's contracted till the end 2024, but then again so were Miller and Momirovski. I think Sutton is more likely.
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| I don’t think we’ll get either Burgess or Sutton, I think we may need to temper expectations on that front!
Hope Im wrong, I can see us not getting an extra prop in before the start of the season.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"My honest opinion is the Burgess is full of BS. Would be delighted to be proved wrong. Sutton is linked because it was reported that the Bulldogs were open to an early release a couple of months ago. Search "Sutton to Super League" and you'll find it. He's contracted till the end 2024, but then again so were Miller and Momirovski. I think Sutton is more likely.'"
Yeah I get the impression theres an enjoyment of the adulation and talk of 'ooh the Burgii might be coming home!'. Didn't George say that about Leeds too a few years ago?
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| Quote ="christopher"I don’t think we’ll get either Burgess or Sutton, I think we may need to temper expectations on that front!
Hope Im wrong, I can see us not getting an extra prop in before the start of the season.'"
Potentially. If so, I hope we push for a hooker. Wouldn't be surprised if we had a player wanting to leave mid season. Possibly Myler if the likes of Miller, Frawley and (please, please, please) Croft stay fit. We might chose to play the long game, but it's a risky proposition.
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| Quote ="Seth"Yeah I get the impression theres an enjoyment of the adulation and talk of 'ooh the Burgii might be coming home!'. Didn't George say that about Leeds too a few years ago?'"
Yep. Everytime there's a test match in Leeds somebody points a microphone at a Burgess and they trot out the same spiel. Call me an old cynic, but I just don't buy it.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Potentially. If so, I hope we push for a hooker. Wouldn't be surprised if we had a player wanting to leave mid season. Possibly Myler if the likes of Miller, Frawley and (please, please, please) Croft stay fit. We might chose to play the long game, but it's a risky proposition.'"
Myler might be perfectly happy playing a bit part, he’s not getting any younger and it might prolong his career a bit, unless someone offers him a good deal mid season that is.
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| I still don't know whether Eseh would be the better signing, so we have Lisone, Sangare, Holroyd, Mik and then Hudson and Eseh putting pressure on them, plus whoever is coming through the academy. I know we saw Tom N-W debut against Cas and he didn't let anyone down, but realistically I don't see anyone from our youth system being ready for first grade for another year or two. If we can't find a senior prop who can do some damage in the middle and offer something better than we already have, maybe a more raw option which will allow us to put money elsewhere.
We could probably sign 3 Sam Eseh's for one Ryan Sutton. I do think a Burgess type signing would be mega for us but is it possible?
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| Quote ="christopher"Myler might be perfectly happy playing a bit part, he’s not getting any younger and it might prolong his career a bit, unless someone offers him a good deal mid season that is.'"
Pure speculation on my part. I hope stays all year, because he provides great cover at fullback if A) If Miller is injured B) If we move Miller into the halves because one of the first choice lads is injured.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Pure speculation on my part. I hope stays all year, because he provides great cover at fullback if A) If Miller is injured B) If we move Miller into the halves because one of the first choice lads is injured.'"
I'm not convinced he's worth the cap space when we have Edgell and Lumb waiting in the wings to come through myself.
But Myler is a very solid and experienced back-up FB if we can afford/justify it.
I want to see us sign McDonnell to a longer deal, with us re-signing Bentley I really don't want to lose McDonnell, he deserves a starting spot for me and is the better and more consistent player of the two.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I'm not convinced he's worth the cap space when we have Edgell and Lumb waiting in the wings to come through myself.
But Myler is a very solid and experienced back-up FB if we can afford/justify it.
I want to see us sign McDonnell to a longer deal, with us re-signing Bentley I really don't want to lose McDonnell, he deserves a starting spot for me and is the better and more consistent player of the two.'"
He's had a great year, but I don’t think we need to be upgrading and extending contracts too soon. That's how we got ourselves in such massive bother with the cap. Let's see how he goes in his second year and make a sensible offer on the back of that.
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| I hope to hear the Southstand signing, Saturday night and I like the way you move Paul Momirovski !!!
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| Sounds like a good signing and be good for Handley.
Hope stays fit as think he can add a decent bit to us.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"He's had a great year, but I don’t think we need to be upgrading and extending contracts too soon. That's how we got ourselves in such massive bother with the cap. Let's see how he goes in his second year and make a sensible offer on the back of that.'"
If we let this run on someone else will take him 100%. He’s been in the best 2-3 players of the entire squad this season it’s not a fluke in my view.
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| I agree with the hooker and that’s why I don’t mind the rumours of Paul McShane for a year.
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| Yes, but there's no rush is there? Start talking to him early next season and get it done midway through the season assuming he's showing the kind of form he has this year. We're in the box seat and other clubs can't just come in whenever they want. Arthur's right about us offering deals that were way too long to players in the very recent past. If he's looking the business again in ten games I'd be happy to look at a 3-4 year deal then.
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| Good signing
Probably not quite as big or athletic as Nene, but still plenty big and athletic enough, much more natural centre, better Skills, better defender, more intelligent rugby player.
Overall, an upgrade, and considering Nene was one of our better players until he buggerd off, finding an upgrade is a good piece of work by the club.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"If we let this run on someone else will take him 100%. He’s been in the best 2-3 players of the entire squad this season it’s not a fluke in my view.'"
I don't think it's a fluke. He's a very good player. Just think we need to be careful in our player valuations. I don't think this is another Walters situation. Even with Martin's return to the second row McDonnell deserves a starting spot on this years performances. Competition will be fierce though, as it should be.
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"Sounds like a good signing and be good for Handley.
Hope stays fit as think he can add a decent bit to us.'"
Or good for Fus I might be tempted to play Mom on the right.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"I don't think it's a fluke. He's a very good player. Just think we need to be careful in our player valuations. I don't think this is another Walters situation. Even with Martin's return to the second row McDonnell deserves a starting spot on this years performances. Competition will be fierce though, as it should be.'"
Fair enough - I wouldn’t be letting one of the best young players at the club go much longer without tying them down if it were me. We were prepared to extend Bentley for 2 years when he’s barely played more than Fus this year (low bar) and in my humble is simply not as effective as McDonnell. If I was McDonnell I’d be wanting to be recognised after a very good year.
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