When we won the title from 5th we used to yawn when fans of LLS winners used to moan that they should be champions.I would like the shield as well as the SL title,but I accept the conditions of the comp

Not particularly any more ridiculous than a team finishing 1st given 2 home semi finals and losing both.

I'd say it probably actually is. Having something that says LEAGUE LEADERS on it and finishing 5th would be ridiculous. If Huddersfield was top after 23 Rounds and then slipped to 5th after 30 Rounds I think most (if not all) on here would say it's a joke to call them LLS winners (Especially if Leeds were the team who ended up in 1st after Hudds' fall down the table and didn't get awarded it instead).

Again, I'd say not particularly anymore ridiculous than a team finishing 1st after 27 rounds being given the League Leaders Shield then eventually finishing 5th after the playoffs. Which was possible under the previous system.

All this system has done is take away playoff games and put them into an additional qualifying section.

As I said, I understand the reasons why it's given out when it is and it really isn't something I'm going to get that worked up over or anything.

I actually quite like this system altogether, my biggest reservation of it is that the top 2 don't get a big enough advantage for finishing there as the playoffs don't give a second chance and it's a bit too easy for 3rd and 4th to get to Old Trafford.

Other than that I think it's a good system. I do get p|ssed off at people in the media saying its complicated though. It's really no more complicated than any of the playoff systems we've used.

Leeds haven't got the LLS because the league season hasn't finished yet. It's a simple as that.

Another 7 games to go, boys and girls.

I am certainly never going to get worked up by winning the Shield, or not as may be. I have always bought into the concept of the Grand final being the be all and end all regards who the true champions are and nothing would change were we to finish top at the end of 30 rounds.

I do hope we can see it through though this time. Smith and Bluey managed it only once each during their reigns, it's 6 years since we last did it, and Mcdermott hasn't even managed a top 2 finish during his time yet.

Round 30 is end of table game, before knock-out playoffs start. In the super 8's points carry over, so whoever is top of the pile after that deserves the LLS. Nothing to see here.

Yeah you would say that considering the amount of times the 'Rhinos' have had a mediocre league campaign, finished nowhere and still won the GF.

How many times have the 'Rhinos' finished top during the SL era? Not many times, I would suggest.

With prize money increased to £100.000 this year the shield is now worth winning.

I think the LLS after 30 matches has given it more "real estate" value, all the weaker teams filtered out in the last third of the season, super 8's much better quality. Become top of the pile and you,ve really deserved it and should have better recognition of a "major" title of consistency.

You get the same amount as winning the challenge cup. So 1000.00 (guessing you missed a zero). A place in the world club series and a trophy to confirm your the most consistent team in the league, a home play off. So many incentives to finish top now.

Also the hub cap winners get into the expanded WCC series

No idea, havn't really paid attention.Can tell you how many SL crowns we have though

I know how many times saint Helens have been beaten in grand finals in the super league era

We didn't finish 5th. We finished with the Super League trophy, so surely that means we FINISHED 1st?

The season hasn't finished yet. We've just shaved four teams off the fixture list. Points roll on, the table positions roll on and the Play-offs are only two semi finals and a final in October.

You should have an interest in both because the prize money for LLS has gone up and it's going to up again in a few years.

it was when huddersfield won it, now it's a major trophy in the eyes of some leeds fans

It means nothing if you don't go on to win the GF. Well it might to some I suppose. See above.

It now means £100k and selection for WCC

This team want the lot this year, and I wouldn't back against it.
1 game in the CC final
3/4 wins out of 7 in the league could secure top spot
2 wins in the play offs to become Champions

Simple

not simple,but quite possible

The team that is top at the end of the season should be champions and receive the super league winners trophy. We should then play the top four in a play off for the premiership trophy as we use to, now that would fill old Trafford and stop doing everything the Australian way.

It never used to fill Old Trafford, quite the opposite. It was a total anti-climax. I don't agree with first past the post. It's possible to lose all your games against your nearest rivals, but hammering the whipping boys you could be classed as champions.

If Leeds started the season like a house on fire, were 8 points clear by May but suffered season ending injuries to McGuire, Aiton and Cuthbertson, I'd be feeling pretty short changed if we didn't top the league and be crowned champions. To become the Champions you have to overcome adversity, be strong, skill full, have bucketloads of character. That's how it should be, if you don't win the GF, beating the best of the best, you don't deserve the title

There is no way we'd fill Old Trafford for a secondary competition final when we can't fill it for the current primary competition final.

We've had a playoff final determining the winners of the league for 70 out of RL's current 120 year history.
We were using a playoff final to determine the winner of the league before Australia were even playing RL.

A playoff final determining the champions is the British way.