^ Das it

May be another way to stem the potential problem of contracts being effectively worthless, would to be to fine the club signing a player who was walking out on his contract?

WHAT??!! Hall wants to go to Wigan??!!

Or implement minimum transfer fees payable if the clubs can't agree. The transfer fee would depend on length of contract, status of player

Eg current international, regular first team player, bit player etc. There would be anomalies to overcome but it may set a standard.

There should however be fines for clubs enticing a player to breach his contract.

I get that whole point, though I feel there is a fundamental difference between someone walking out mid-contract or mid-season, to someone changing their mind on a contract within weeks and before they've actually began any of their contractual obligations.

Each case should be decided on merit, and in this instance I feel it would have been better to simply wash our hands of him. It's wasted time and effort for little value and I feel makes the club look like they lack compassion given the timescales of the wish to renege.

And, whilst it's the first time my views have ever been called lefty (something which I am far from), I do feel we should just let the bloke crack on with his life rather than making it difficult for no real gain.

I like the idea, to make it fairer and more consistent, I'd base it as a set percentage of the remaining value of the players contract. That way if the club have offered the security of a long term contract to the player, they get a larger pay out if he leaves early. Likewise if player is in his last year, it's a relatively low fee.

I am sure that under normal circumstances a club would probably give a player a few ' cooling off days '. In fact like we did when he first joined us on 23rd June. He had until the 1st September to decide whether he was staying or leaving.

He choose to stay and then became ' homesick ' after finding out another club in the NRL would be interested in him if he could get a release from his contract with the Rhinos.

This is not homesickness or bad decision, just pure greed.

I mentioned homesickness and its links to depression not so long ago which all appear to characterise some of the impulsive behaviours displayed by Segeyaro since last year. This led to him ending up on the outer at Penrith and swapping places with Hardaker.

Some of the psychiatric experts in here claimed that was a load of crap because he's selfish and taking the pee, etc.

His father died last year who he was very close to. That may explain why he's where he is at mentally and emotionally right now. He's been all over the place ever since.

I hope my views don't come across as too "leftist" for the likes of illy.

Leeds should let it go and move on. It's not a good look otherwise.

Or a mixture of both - the Sharks were only able to make him an offer after the 1st Sept deadline had passed. Don't get me wrong, I think Segeyaro is 100% in the wrong, if he was that bothered, he shouldn't have agreed to stay and hung on in the hope of an NRL deal. But that doesn't change my view on what Leeds should do.

Apologies: I meant to say his father died year before last, above.

I don't think he will man-up anytime soon.

So much for RL Cares both here and in the NRL.

What a load of Bull**** posted on here . Top and bottom was he was happy here , happy to sign a contract having had plenty of time to think about it , returned home and was offered a better deal so then and only then threw the homesick card into the fray . Either get a reasonable fee for him or let him rot .

I am not coming down on either is the right way, but you have just posted utter rubbish yourself.

We got him because we were desperate at the time, would pay the money, and he was available, without being able to play for an NRL club at that time, lucky us. He came, he played, and he saved our season. He even already had it in his head that if an NRL club came in for him that he had the option to return immediately. No club came in at that point, and he was still in this country, so it appears he agreed to go with a longer contract. Upon returning to Australia he then was offered the opportunity at an NRL club who in change of circumstances they had a space, which he was open about was his preferred option, and here we are. I doubt very much he is on more money, but who knows.

I wonder if you'd have had these views had Leeds just let him go, without a fight.
On second thoughts, no I don't. We all know the answer to that one.

You said it all there , he happily signed a contract with us and then when a better offer came along decided to break it . Sorry pal that does not wash with me , Leeds could not have legally cancelled his contract so it works both ways .

I can relate to and accept both points of view. All employers should look to treat employees fairly and look for amicable solutions when things don't work out. But on the other hand employees have to give consideration to the impact of their actions on their employers business. As has been said at some point GH and the Rhinos should let him go whether or not we get a fee. But for now I think a little time sat on his hands whilst we try to salvage some compensation is fair enough and good for the game. Contracts are important, plans are made on the basis of a signed understanding. If Segeyaro had doubts about staying then he shouldn't have signed. Once he signed he should have stayed, at least for this year, unless we could find a replacement. If contracts can be signed and discarded with no consequences, then chaos will ensue. But as I said earlier the clubs and governing bodies in sport have a massive part to play in ensuring stability.

Why come out with all the homesickness stuff and how he couldn't possible return to the UK......when he allegedly didn't even finalise the contract with Leeds to play in 2017???

Yep, that last bit clearly is a desperate attempt.

For what it's worth, I'm sure he is 'homesick' or certainly would prefer to carry out is profession 'back home in Oz' - I don't actually think money is the driver, he would just prefer to be in Oz if he can get similar/reasonable money there - that was always his intention and he didn't hide it. Unfortunately for all concerned, the Sharks weren't able to offer a contract until a few weeks after he'd been left with no other NRL playing offers so had taken his only offer on the table at Leeds.

Ultimately though, GH has done a great bit of business and found a more than adequate replacement in Parcell (who's also probably cheaper). We no longer want or need Segeyaro, so cut him loose and put it down to experience. He's not covered himself in glory, if we just cut ties and play the bigger man, he's the only one who looks bad out of it all - as it is, I think Leeds are looking petty and uncompasionate.

As said before once you let one off his contract you are leaving the door wide open for anyone else to do the same . On another note Parcell will have a long way to go yet before he gets up to Judas level

You are claiming that some people on here are " psychiatric experts " and then go on to say that his father dies in 2015 and this might explain..... So come on then when did you have him on your psychiatric couch ?.

Leeds have moved on by signing a New hooker and passing it off to the lawyers to sort out.

Only people not to have moved on with this matter is us keyboard psychiatric lawyers. Soon as the season starts I am sure this sad person will be confined to the rubbish bin of history.

Nah, William'll stick around this year I reckon



Seriously though, this has gone far enough for me. Too much more and the club'll start coming across like the bloke who batters his ex for leaving him.

Tbf they're asking for a transfer fee......hardly a crime or unreasonable request. No one is expecting the £250k figure but Cronulla dont seem to have even offered £25. If we had turned down a couple of reasonable offers then I could understand the argument that we're being harsh.

If Leeds were out of pocket I might incline more towards this view. As it is, we're rid of a player of questionable temperament.

I think the solomona case has affected this one too. RL clubs have realised they have to make a stand. also NRL clubs are worried about losing players to RU as well

I wouldn't bet on it, but more to the point... if there is an upturn in the clubs fortunes, will the likes of El Diablo, G1, Tony Soprano, nantwichexile, Fat Boy and Gilder return?



Or maybe I'll stick around just to post "leftist" comments and opinions? I have no problem whatsoever upsetting selfish, right-wing, neoliberal, angry kippers or even worse "rightist" specimens than that!




Well said.

Think it's a disgrace an Australian based player signing a contract then halfway through wanting out.
Then using the homesick card and returning to Australia is totally unacceptable.
The only thing worse is if the Player claiming homesickness then signed for another club in the same competition. Now where have we seen that before.