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I tend to measure Leeds against the best they can be. I'd like to see Leeds use whatever they have at their disposal to defend their titles this season. I don't even mind seeing them fail if I think they are giving us 100% of what they've got.
If they thought they needed to sign Greg Eastwood (and they appeared to think so when they signed him) what has changed since then to make a replacement not as necessary?
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Pretty bang on. With an eye in the future you can see all empires fall and I would rather we be over taken by better teams than give it away by handicapping ourselves by not using what we have. Quoting stadium plans does what? We still ahve a better ground than most in super league... and better gates.
Eastwood wasn't the clubs fault but surely if they could see we needed to add to the squad they should have had alternate options and contingencies. For them to say we don't need to add, after trying to add, is hypocritical. Fans that believe them are too easily lead.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"I heard an interesting whisper over this weekend about a potential replacement for Eastwood ...
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- A Kolpak 'stiff'
- The available cap space in order to bring him in
- Dying to end his kick & clap hell at Toulon
Step forward SONNY BILL WILLIAMS ....'" I could be wrong but hasn't he got a criminal conviction?
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"Pretty bang on. With an eye in the future you can see all empires fall and I would rather we be over taken by better teams than give it away by handicapping ourselves by not using what we have. Quoting stadium plans does what? We still ahve a better ground than most in super league... and better gates.
Eastwood wasn't the clubs fault but surely if they could see we needed to add to the squad they should have had alternate options and contingencies. For them to say we don't need to add, after trying to add, is hypocritical. Fans that believe them are too easily lead.'"
GH never actually said that did he??
He has clearly stated IF the RIGHT player became available and on the best deal for the club we would add to the squad.
All he's said is that he and the coaches are happy with what we have got and that we won't make a signing for the sake of it.
After the key role GH has played in re-building our club from the brink of oblivion and the policy's in terms of squad building and recruitment why question his methods???
Should we really be offering big money for player's at this moment in time if the coach is happy to bide his time and wait for the right player??
Are we that desperate to sign more player's when we are top of the league without hitting top gear yet??
Also we don't know what's happening behind the scene's re-contract extstentions and posiible future recruitment so let's trust someone who has played a key role in putting us where we are and know's what it take's to keep us there.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"I heard an interesting whisper over this weekend about a potential replacement for Eastwood ...
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- Dying to end his kick & clap hell at Toulon
Step forward SONNY BILL WILLIAMS ....'"
As I posted elsewhere on here last week, SBW has signed a 12 month extension to his Toulon contract so he's no longer available - if he ever was at a price GH would be prepared to pay.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"
All he's said is that he and the coaches are happy with what we have got and that we won't make a signing for the sake of it.
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Because Gary hasn't said we're short... we're not??
We're only short if he says so? Until then we're not?
Because he said he and the coaches are happy (after failing to bring in reinforcements) you believe him. Case and point. You believe whatever the club say while ignoring what they do.
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| No matter what the club say now IF a target comes along they will discuss the merit of any such signing at the time, As has been stated before we dont need to sign just anyone
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| I think there is little doubt that a signing would improve our squad strength and depth. However, this has to be balanced against the long term balance of the squad, as well as the cost of aquiring the person. Paying the bulls 400k for BUrgess would be a big layout for a player, but would be the sort of calibre of player we should be going after, rather than the Sam Moas of this world. If the club can't afford a fee, then it will probably not happen this season.
Over the course of the season we have enough to match Saints, anyone else is not an issue to me really.
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru" Quoting stadium plans does what? We still ahve a better ground than most in super league... and better gates.
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You seem to have missed the point. The Southstand has to be dealt with. That will cost significant money.
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Eastwood wasn't the clubs fault but surely if they could see we needed to add to the squad they should have had alternate options and contingencies. .'" How does that work then? You get a player to remain in limbo on a provisional contract that we will take up at our discretion if our 1st choice player becomes unavailable for some unforeseen reason?
If you get stuck in our position (and Hulls) with signings you have two options. Do what Hull did and compromise on a lesser quality player than happens to be available or rely on the youth set up you have invested significant resources into already.
Quote For them to say we don't need to add, after trying to add, is hypocritical. Fans that believe them are too easily lead'" The coach would want a hundred 1st team players. The Directors have to try and balance giving the coach what he wants, what he needs, compliance with the league rules and looking after the other interests of the club.
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"Because Gary hasn't said we're short... we're not??
We're only short if he says so? Until then we're not?
Because he said he and the coaches are happy (after failing to bring in reinforcements) you believe him. Case and point. You believe whatever the club say while ignoring what they do.'"
I believe if a quality player become's available at the right price for the club we'll sign him!!
I also believe that up until now GH has more than proved himself as our chief exec.
Whilst you chelp about signing's and squad depth or lack of it check the league table and check GH's squad building/retention record!!
If they say they are happy with the squad depth plus there's money available to make a signing(if it's right all round) why not trust them to get it right???
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Over the course of the season we have enough to match Saints, anyone else is not an issue to me really.'"
Except perhaps when it comes to head to head meetings with them under McClennan. Two wins from six could be interpreted as a worrying statistic?
Next Sunday is a big game. Going two from seven would not instil me going forward with confidence that Leeds have the measure of St Helens with the present underfunded, understrength squad.
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| Quote ="G1"Letting your customers know you're hitting a rough patch is a great idea.
No, really.
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| i feel we need another prop. at this time i would be happy with someone who did the basics right, was competant, and was able to play in order to rest others. i would be happy with a richard moore(if fit) or paul wood. nothing special but able to do a job
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| Don't know if this has been said, but who's been filling in Scruton's space? He seemed to play quite a bit last season so I would have thought you would have bought another decent prop.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Don't know if this has been said, but who's been filling in Scruton's space? He seemed to play quite a bit last season so I would have thought you would have bought another decent prop.'"
It's just meant burgess getting more game-time and as yet scruton hasn't been replaced but i've every confidence in our squad as the like's of kirke and jjb can do stint's in the front row.
We may see young ambler given a run out soon amd also liam brown who play's back row could come into the 17 to accommodate kirke moving to prop.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Don't know if this has been said, but who's been filling in Scruton's space? He seemed to play quite a bit last season so I would have thought you would have bought another decent prop.'"
Luke Burgess
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I believe if a quality player become's available at the right price for the club we'll sign him!!
I also believe that up until now GH has more than proved himself as our chief exec.
Whilst you chelp about signing's and squad depth or lack of it check the league table and check GH's squad building/retention record!!
If they say they are happy with the squad depth plus there's money available to make a signing(if it's right all round) why not trust them to get it right???'"
You are a sheep and the last few months of copying the Southstand Mafia spin has proved it, keep believing!!
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"You are a sheep and the last few months of copying the Southstand Mafia spin has proved it, keep believing!!'"
Baaaaaaaaallllllllllllllooxxxxxx
P.s Who are they then??
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| Quote ="rhinoms"It's just meant burgess getting more game-time and as yet scruton hasn't been replaced but i've every confidence in our squad as the like's of kirke and jjb can do stint's in the front row.
We may see young ambler given a run out soon amd also liam brown who play's back row could come into the 17 to accommodate kirke moving to prop.'"
Fair enough. Burgess has looked good from what i've seen of him.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Baaaaaaaaallllllllllllllooxxxxxx
P.s Who are they then??'"
You should know!!
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"You are a sheep and the last few months of copying the Southstand Mafia spin has proved it, keep believing!!'"
You are an alias and are too scared to post contoversy under your regular username. this post proves it.
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| Quote ="King Monkey"Luke Burgess'"
If Burgess has replaced Sruton who has replaced Burgess?
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| Quote ="tvoc"If Burgess has replaced Sruton who has replaced Burgess?'"
No one. I reckon more is expected of Burgess this year.
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| Quote ="tvoc"If Burgess has replaced Sruton who has replaced Burgess?'"
Good question, and who has replaced Ellis?
And dont get me started on Toopi?
And why have prices gone up at Headingley?
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| ellis and scruton haven't been replaced and this may tell later in the season through tiredness and/or injuries.
toopi hardly played, not his fault, and gibson and watkins have easily replaced him
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"
And why have prices gone up at Headingley?'"
Most places prices have gone up. Credit crunch, Southstand etc.
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