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| Quote ="Him"Apparently the Hull Daily Mail are saying that one of the biggest reasons why the clubs walked is they don't like Hetherington and the influence he has on the game.
So all this rubbish about concerns about structure and a vote being sprung on them is just bo11ocks. It's that Lenagan and Pearson don't like Hetherington.'"
[url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Revealed-reason-Hull-KR-Hull-FC-walked-Super/story-19987613-detail/story.htmlDid the Mail? Where's that, then.[/url
You know, if you're going to make fatuous, potentially damaging statements, it's best to proof-read your source first. As you obviously prefer to do so after the event, I've posted the relevant link above. No, that's quite all right.
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| Quote ="Him"In which case why did they walk out? Why not just vote against? It wasn't even a binding vote. A SL meeting can't determine the structure for the rest of rugby league.'"
But when the RFL have already ' sold ' this new Nirvana to the Championship Clubs ( including some ' cash carrots ' that werent theirs to offer ) it is only the structure of SL that actually matters, everything else follows on from that
As you well know
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| It's all just a big pile of e I'm afraid
Trying to raise the profile of a fantastic sport run by incompetent clowns
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| I said Sh1te not poop
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| Quote ="unlucky 13"I said poop not poop'"
Can't get past the mods
Any tips on swearing
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| Quote ="WormInHand"[url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Revealed-reason-Hull-KR-Hull-FC-walked-Super/story-19987613-detail/story.htmlDid the Mail? Where's that, then.[/url
You know, if you're going to make fatuous, potentially damaging statements, it's best to proof-read your source first. As you obviously prefer to do so after the event, I've posted the relevant link above. No, that's quite all right.'"
From that link,
"Former Hull chairperson Kath Hetherington, Gary's wife, is to take over in the same role at Wakefield, giving the family (note not 2 separate clubs....no hidden agenda in the Hull Daily Mail ) two votes on all major decisions at Super League level." (Oh well the others are screwed if 2 outta 14 can swing all major voting decisions )
"That growing influence of the Hetheringtons (a whopping 14.5% of potential votes btw) is believed to be a source of real concern for the likes of Lenagan, as well as Pearson and Hudgell."
"The six clubs believe as little as four weeks are needed to sort out all the issues in relation to structure and governance (really, shame the Hull ones can't work that quickly to turn their teams into winners or Davy at Hudds to attract decent crowds) and are tired of working to the Hetherington's timescales (awwww, how long has Kath been at Wakey to help implement these wicked timescales in cahoots with the Dark Lord Gary? Maybe we should all go with what the Hetherington's want if Kath can make that quick an impact on meetings led by Barwick who wasn't even in the sport when Kath was at Hull, whilst the rebel 6 quality businessmen feel tricked and as yet unable to make the changes they want).
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| Ah the Hull Daily Mail.
Wipe your backside on it and you'll end up covered in more poop than you started with.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"[url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Revealed-reason-Hull-KR-Hull-FC-walked-Super/story-19987613-detail/story.htmlDid the Mail? Where's that, then.[/url
You know, if you're going to make fatuous, potentially damaging statements, it's best to proof-read your source first. As you obviously prefer to do so after the event, I've posted the relevant link above. No, that's quite all right.'"
"However, sources have told the Mail Hetherington's perceived influence in the game, and on the RFL, is one of many concerns the clubs have over the sport's future. "
Not sure how my post was fatuous or damaging when it's what the HDM said, and it's backed up by comments from Pearson.
I suggest you read AND understand the piece before trying to take the p|ss out of someone else.
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| Quote ="Starbug"But when the RFL have already ' sold ' this new Nirvana to the Championship Clubs ( including some ' cash carrots ' that werent theirs to offer ) it is only the structure of SL that actually matters, everything else follows on from that
As you well know'"
You mean they don't agree with the other clubs? They could have voted against it in the SL meeting. It would have no effect on whether the structure went through at a future RFL meeting whichever way the vote went, which it seems they would have been in the majority with the absentees at the SL meeting.
There is still no reason to tie a change in RFL governance to a vote on the structure of the league. Either it's a good structure or it's not. It'd be like Ed Milliband saying he won't vote on (in whichever way) a piece of legislation unless theres a general election first.
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| Quote ="Him""However, sources have told the Mail Hetherington's perceived influence in the game, and on the RFL, is one of many concerns the clubs have over the sport's future. "
Not sure how my post was fatuous or damaging when it's what the HDM said, and it's backed up by comments from Pearson.
I suggest you read AND understand the piece before trying to take the p|ss out of someone else.'"
Weak. You know very well I'm referring to this part of your post:
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So all this rubbish about concerns about structure and a vote being sprung on them is just bo11ocks. It's that Lenagan and Pearson don't like Hetherington.'"
.... which cannot be deduced from anything in that article and, fatuously, trivializes the stance all six clubs felt they were forced into. Which you'd know if you'd read it first. 'Apparently' can be a dangerous word, no 'pi $$-taking' necessary by me, duckie, you've extracted it from your urethra all by yourself.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Ah the Hull Daily Mail.
Wipe your backside on it and you'll end up covered in more poop than you started with.'"
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| Quote ="WormInHand"[url=http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Revealed-reason-Hull-KR-Hull-FC-walked-Super/story-19987613-detail/story.htmlDid the Mail? Where's that, then.[/url
You know, if you're going to make fatuous, potentially damaging statements, it's best to proof-read your source first.'"
The irony in this post is beautiful.
Quote ="Hull Daily Mail""However, =#FF0000sources have told the Mail Hetherington's perceived influence in the game, and on the RFL, is one of many concerns the clubs have over the sport's future'"
Who are these anonymous, so called "sources" that the HDM is getting its information from?
Quote ="Hull Daily Mail"The Mail has been =#FF0000told...'"
Quote ="Hull Daily Mail"The Mail =#FF0000understands...'"
Quote ="Hull Daily Mail"... Mail =#FF0000told they just want to look at it for longer...'"
Quote ="Hull Daily Mail"Whilst =#FF0000unconfirmed, suggestions began to surface yesterday that the walk-out clubs had also been unhappy that...'"
Quote ="Hull Daily Mail"That growing influence of the Hetheringtons =#FF0000is believed to be a source of real concern'"
Sloppy, lazy journalism that only a fool would take seriously.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"The irony in this post is beautiful.
Who are these anonymous, so called "sources" that the HDM is getting its information from?
Sloppy, lazy journalism that only a fool would take seriously.'"
. While my opionion of the HDM often complies with Mr Gilder's, in this case I can confirm the source, as I was witness to the information first-hand too. That article reiterates everything AP stated at our forum the other night, Pearson is the 'mole', albeit standing waving his arms in broad daylight (or the KC's electric lights, as it was) such is his outrage, not hiding underground. I heard it all with my own ears and so did the the HDM journalist - also present (confirmed by my own eyes). In addition thousands of HullFCTV viewers and local radio listeners also heard him live.
As Pearson was the only SL chairman present at our forum the Mail had to take his word that he also reflects the concerns of the other 5 rebels. They were therefore obliged to use the cautious phrases you highlight. But he couldn't have been clearer. Or perhaps you think Pearson's lying?
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| The clubs would do well to be wary of GH and his agenda - he has his man running the game in Nigel Wood. It was Wood who presided over the near collapse of Halifax what does he have in his resume to suggest he is fit person to run the game. Since he took over the sport has seen declining participation, huge fund cuts from sport England, no major sponsors etc why would you let him decide on the future of the game?
GH has much to answer for - he has not come out of this smelling of roses, trying to push a vote through in this manner is pretty underhand and typical of his low ball tactics. No wonder Lenegan and Moran are very wary of him and methods.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Or perhaps you think Pearson's lying?'" He does have a record of bending reality to deflect blame/suit what Hull fans want to hear.
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| Quote ="MjM"He does have a record of bending reality to deflect blame/suit what Hull fans want to hear.'"
Really? In whose opinion? Got any links?
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"The clubs would do well to be wary of GH and his agenda - he has his man running the game in Nigel Wood. It was Wood who presided over the near collapse of Halifax what does he have in his resume to suggest he is fit person to run the game. Since he took over the sport has seen declining participation, huge fund cuts from sport England, no major sponsors etc why would you let him decide on the future of the game?
GH has much to answer for - he has not come out of this smelling of roses, trying to push a vote through in this manner is pretty underhand and typical of his low ball tactics. No wonder Lenegan and Moran are very wary of him and methods.'"
Spot on mate.
Hetherington spits the dummy if he can`t get his own way.
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"Spot on mate.
Hetherington spits the dummy if he can`t get his own way.'"
GH has done a great job for Leeds - albeit on the back of somebody else's money but if he told me it was daytime I would look outside!!
He knows that he cannot move forward without Wigan - they are the biggest name in the sport - Lenegan holds all the aces here and Gary knows that. This restructure will not go through without an erosion of Gary's power base i.e. the removal of Wood.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"GH has done a great job for Leeds - albeit on the back of somebody else's money but if he told me it was daytime I would look outside!!
He knows that he cannot move forward without Wigan - they are the biggest name in the sport - Lenegan holds all the aces here and Gary knows that. This restructure will not go through without an erosion of Gary's power base i.e. the removal of Wood.'"
Give over Sal, it's 2013 not 1993. Wigan are simply not the biggest name in this sport anymore.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Give over Sal, it's 2013 not 1993. Wigan are simply not the biggest name in this sport anymore.'"
We must agree to disagree - my son lives in Australia - the only team they know over there is Wigan. Its heritage and achievements are way beyond that of any other side in the UK.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"We must agree to disagree - my son lives in Australia - the only team they know over there is Wigan. Its heritage and achievements are way beyond that of any other side in the UK.'"
Thats rubbish, sorry, but most Australian fans can tell you all the super league teams.
I am in South Africa a lot, they love their rugby over there, but of course only know union. However, when I am in meetings and rugby comes up I tell them I am a League fan. Some know it some don't. But just about every occasion they have known, the response is "isn't it Leeds that win it all the time though" to which I obviously reply my team.
Melbourne were never known 10 years back. Outside Australia who is the most well know side now over there?
Wigan were well known because of their continuous success, Just like Leeds now. Get up to date.
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| having been there aussies are virtually all insular about everything especially sport, and they don't give a toss about leaue or union outside australia.
the odds ones i spoke to knew about leeds, wigan and saints and thats about it
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| Quote ="Gotcha"
Melbourne were never known 10 years back. Outside Australia who is the most well know side now over there?.'"
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| I have just had a tweet from Boston13 and He told me he met a Rhinos fan in Sacramento and had a chat to him.Now the only reason this man knew I was a rhinos fan was because he saw LOINER on my profile.An American knowing the term loiner tells me the Leeds club is quite well nown
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| I have just had a tweet from Boston13 and He told me he met a Rhinos fan in Sacramento and had a chat to him.Now the only reason this man knew I was a rhinos fan was because he saw LOINER on my profile.An American knowing the term loiner tells me the Leeds club is quite well nown
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