I agree with the point about telling the players they would get the points back, that was foolish and the exact opposite should've been done really to add more motivation to their efforts. I can only assume it was done to try keep players leaving like Scruton did.

And there it is! I have been waiting a long time to find the stupidest post ever on here!
You fecking knob!
Crawl back into your hole

Bradford can waste vital funds chasing another appeal, but even in the unlikely event of them being awarded back their points in full, it still may not be enough as all the other teams are pulling away from them and games and points are running out.

The ideal scenario would be for Wakey and Salford to finish far enough ahead of them that a 6 point bonus wouldn't make a difference and looking at Bradford's next 6 games that could happen.

Wire (a)
Catalans (h)
Saints (a)
Hudds (a)
Wigan (h)
Leeds (a)

Only game of them I'd give them any hope in is the Catalans game if the French put in one of their iffy away showings.

I'd be surprised if Bradford actually went to court with this. I suspect it's more a case of trying to convince players and fans that they're not prepared to leave any stone unturned.

I can see why they are appealing again - the drop down to the Championship will mean financial disaster for the club and will probably tip them over the edge and out of existence.

They were hoping for better on field results to keep them in the SL but as that's hasn't happened their only course of action is this. The Bulls have no other option as far as I can see.

To see any heartland club go under is saddening but to see a club as big as Bradford going under is travesty.

I think you will find a lot of rugby league supporters have now completely run out of any sympathy with the Bulls, if they want to drag the sport through the courts, than therefore IMO supporters of other clubs should boycott Odsal in protest.

You may not agree with me and my thoughts, just like I may not agree with all your thoughts, but there is no need to be a typical keyboard warrior who resorts to abusive language, maybe Stanley you should crawl back into your hole.

It would appear their own supporters boycotted the team years ago, that is partly why they're in the brown stuff now. I have no sympathy with the Bradford club, my sympathy lies with much better run clubs in the Championship that have been denied a shot at Superleague for many years while Bradford were put on life support by the RFL.

gotta love the rugby league family

I can see the argument that "in their position you'd try everything" but in reality, unless they're pretty sure that they can win AND that it will make a difference to their season's outcome, I'd have to question who is paying the legal costs for this battle and whether that money might not be fairly urgently needed elsewhere.

I have no idea of their chances of winning their court action. I am pretty sure they will be relegated regardless. That being the case, I think if I were a supporter or worse still an employee, I'd want to be hearing a very convincing explanation of precisely why that particular wedge of cash was being laid out.

TBF we don't know who's picking up the legal bill - it could be a Bulls fan offering their services as a solicitor or maybe even a former Bulls CEO?

Maybe it's leftovers from the bucket appeal. Classy.

The sooner the bulls go out of existence the better. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

That being the sort of clarification I would want as the aforementioned fan or employee. I fond it unlikely that, given the size of case this would probably be, there are many solicitors with little enough to do and time to spend working pro bono that they'd take it on for free. I might be wrong.

Even so, I would still want to know whether that was not an investment that could be directed more usefully.

Whoever thought that selling season tickets for next to nothing, while spending up to the cap, with inept revenue streams and patchy attendance really should give themselves a hand.

Admititedly the rot had set in during the Caisley era but still.

I'm more pee'd off that other SL clubs voted against them and troughed the cash out between themselves, destroying a club for a measly few grand.

A good friend of mine has come up with a very interesting and plausible theory!

They are now, after Wakefield's win over the Pies, almost certain to go down. Hence the reason they have now decided to take the RFL to the High Court. They know they don't actually have a case, if they had it would have been picked up by the appeals panel. However, getting the points back is irrelevant to this course of action because, has as already been said, they could still be not enough to avoid relegation anyway. The real goal here is cause as much disruption as possible to the Super League and RFL, and while ever a pending legal challenge remains, the RFL are unable to make any decisions about next season. He thinks the end-game is to actually put the RFL and Super League into such a position that they have to postpone the proposed league changes for another year, irrespective! Meaning that Super League would be forced to stay at 14 teams for another year, giving the Bulls another last-ditched chance of survival longer-term!

It is the most plausible theory I have heard... other than Marc Green is so blinkered that he really does think he has a case, when it would appear he doesn't!

Can any of the more legal savvy guys on here give a guess at what type of timescale this latest case will have?

Also if they end up more than 6 points adrift then would the changes to structure still be ok to go ahead as they wouldn't be able to catch Sslford/Wakey even if the unlikely event of them winning happens?

But if



then that would not put



because Bradford would have been relegated and not entitled to play any part in next year's top 12, unless they somehow get more than six points back!

If that was all that was needed to destroy the club, it would have disappeared long ago.

On the Bradford forum they call it a fine. It could also be called a payment to appease the other clubs who had not had any help from the RFL. Don't forget, the management could have refused to pay the "fine" and just got on with their lives, but then there would have been no RL club.

I said the same thing on the other page. They are deliberately bringing the game into disrepute and ruining the spirit of the game. Should not be allowed to happen. In the end doesn't the RFL have the right to determine if the Bulls can be a member of which league anyway? If so even at the end they could find themselves isolated.

I think it would because you have no idea what the High Court will rule and what would follow. Lets say the High Court rule in favour of Bradford (I doubt they will BTW) and they say that the originally points deduction was unlawful! What happens next? Bradford claim mitigating circumstances for their relegation, claiming that the unlawful points deduction impacted on the potential outcome of the league and that had the points not been unlawfully deducted, they might have won more games and kept some of the players which left the club because of this. The RFL are stuck between a massive rock and a hard place. They can't just decide to keep Bradford up and relegate say Salford or Wakefield, because legal action from them would follow and they will most definitely win that battle!

Also, what happens if Bradford do finish just 4 point behind Salford or Wakefield and then after the season has ended the High Court rule in Bradford's favour? We have Salford or Wakefield claiming similar mitigating circumstances and then they will be hot-footing it down to the High Court to keep themselves in Super League.

The reality is that this will already be effecting Salford and Wakefield recruitment for next season. I think had the Bulls accepted their fate then it is fairly certain players would be happy to sign with either club now, knowing that things looks reasonably certain for playing in SL next year.

I think the RFL would have no choice but to wait until the outcome of a legal challenge was known and fully understood. Given there will be a cut-off point where the RFL would indeed have to say, sorry, we can't roll out a new league structure because of this and as such we have no choice but to say, as you where for 2015 and start again in 2016!

This is the counter view to the Bulls legal advisors & it states that the case could cost the Bulls £100K, doesn't say what it will cost the RFL: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6698866

This is the counter view to the Bulls legal advisors & it states that the case could cost the Bulls £100K, doesn't say what it will cost the RFL: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6698866

Quote ="Old Feller"This is the counter view to the Bulls legal advisors & it states that the case could cost the Bulls £100K, doesn't say what it will cost the RFL: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6698866'" A key part of that article when it says it believes the case could be heard within a matter of weeks not months. Won't help Bradford if their goal was to hold up the changing of next years structure whilst a decision was still pending in court.

Quote ="Old Feller"This is the counter view to the Bulls legal advisors & it states that the case could cost the Bulls £100K, doesn't say what it will cost the RFL: www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/ru ... -1-6698866'" A key part of that article when it says it believes the case could be heard within a matter of weeks not months. Won't help Bradford if their goal was to hold up the changing of next years structure whilst a decision was still pending in court.

Perhaps there are certain things the Marc Green wants to get into the public domain. Perhaps a high court can demand certain documentation or answers to certain questions which other wise havent been forthcoming.

There have been pretty strong accusations coming out from not only the various Bulls Camps, (the failed takeover group and Omar Kahns camp have accused each other, but also the RFL) but the RFL aswell that dont seem to be being investigated or addressed.

Maybe this is just about getting certain information, getting it out in the open and the 'win' comes later on.

They wont launch an appeal in the high court all bluff and bluster.

The statement said if we launch an appeal, they will wait to see the results over the next couple of weeks and when all is doomed and six points is worth bugger all they will go down quietly.