Bet Corey Johnson wishes he’d gone to Butlins

Would get better coaching.

Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhinos To Go Joint Top The Rhinos filled their boots last week against the London Broncos but round eleven saw them with a daunting trip to the south of France to take on a Catalans Dragons side who were looking for the win to rejoin a cluster of clubs at the top of the table on sixteen league points. A win for Leeds would lift them into the top six, but a big win could see them go ahead of the Dragons and as high as fourth in the table, but the bookies were favouring a home win, giving the visitors a fourteen-point start on the coupon. Could the Rhinos make it three wins on the trot to find some sort of consistency or would it be the Dragons who would take their second win in their last five outings after a disappointing couple of rounds. READ MORE ON THIS STORY...

Catalans Dragons Nil The Rhinos To Go Joint Top The Rhinos filled their boots last week against the London Broncos but round eleven saw them with a daunting trip to the south of France to take on a Catalans Dragons side who were looking for the win to rejoin a cluster of clubs at the top of the table on sixteen league points. A win for Leeds would lift them into the top six, but a big win could see them go ahead of the Dragons and as high as fourth in the table, but the bookies were favouring a home win, giving the visitors a fourteen-point start on the coupon. Could the Rhinos make it three wins on the trot to find some sort of consistency or would it be the Dragons who would take their second win in their last five outings after a disappointing couple of rounds. READ MORE ON THIS STORY...

Abject performance ball in hand. We carry so little threat in attack that we need to keep teams to a couple of tries to have a chance. Players receiving the ball stood still, not expecting it, no fluency are features every week.
I thought the line speed was as good as it has been all season and there was no lack of effort, but they should be givens every week.

Indeed. Referee guesses, VR confirms. Didn't affect anything today but one day it will be pivotal. I've said for a long time the system is not fit for purpose, is an embarrassment to the game (in a crowded field) and needs to go.

On the plus side...

Defence generally ok, decent effort. Attack was abysmal. Error count embarrasing. Last tackle plays amateurish. The number of passes to a player stood still was off the scale - not for the first time this season. D minus. Must try harder.

I wonder what the Smith cultists will say about that.

Some talk on sky about our new spine, Wilkin called this a red herring and said with our passive defence, letting teams march us down the pitch we have no chance which is what many of us think.

Prematch they showed a slide and we were 12th in SL for lowest completion rate, lowest territory and highest errors, given this puts us below London, a championship side it’s no wonder we do so little with the ball.

Despite all that Croft led SL for try assists, which shows his class.

I’m no Wilkin fan, but he was spot on about all of that. The slide was really telling, we are basically having to throw up miracles each week because of the stupidity we display every single game.

RS is just lulling everyone into a false sense of security with all these bad losses.
He's playing 4d chess.

Once everyone thinks we are done he will pull out a barnstorming set of draws and narrow losses.

Then you'll look silly !

The buck stops with the coach. He's had a fair shot at turning round last years debacle and he''s coming up way short. JUst a question of sooner or later when it comes to his exit. Sad times.

Quote ="YosemiteSam"Indeed. Referee guesses, VR confirms. Didn't affect anything today but one day it will be pivotal. I've said for a long time the system is not fit for purpose, is an embarrassment to the game (in a crowded field) and needs to go.'" It's staying. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/video-re ... try-91060/

Quote ="YosemiteSam"Indeed. Referee guesses, VR confirms. Didn't affect anything today but one day it will be pivotal. I've said for a long time the system is not fit for purpose, is an embarrassment to the game (in a crowded field) and needs to go.'" It's staying. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/video-re ... try-91060/

Neither team were good tonight, don’t think they were 26 points better than us, wasn’t expecting much when I saw the team, but we never looked like scoring.

I was happy to give Frawley a chance when we signed him, I don’t remember his time at Hudds and he was starting in the NRL at the time, but yeah he seems e, kicking game is shocking.

Yep. He’s spot on. Badly coached.

Quote ="Cokey"It's staying. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/video-re ... try-91060/'" Well, as long as it keeps the drama, that's great then. Honestly, what on earth is Bentham wittering on about? It's an embarrasment that makes the sport look as amateurish as it clearly is under the current clown outfit running it.

Quote ="Cokey"It's staying. https://www.seriousaboutrl.com/video-re ... try-91060/'" Well, as long as it keeps the drama, that's great then. Honestly, what on earth is Bentham wittering on about? It's an embarrasment that makes the sport look as amateurish as it clearly is under the current clown outfit running it.

Watched the cronulla Melbourne game this morning.. absolutely superb. Cronulla went into without their best player and at a ground that’s a graveyard for away teams and won with great simple rugby. They changed the way they play because of no star stand off (Hines) and kept it simple and played with high intensity and a power game. Brilliantly coached. Total opposite of what Leeds do time n time again

Apparently Corey Johnson got a couple of minutes to say Well Done to him for applying himself as he has the last few weeks. That’s patronising and insulting, this is not a primary school and there are no gold stars. It’s obvious that CJ was on the bench purely to cover for an injury should one happen, which is poor strategy in itself given the condition and need for forwards to rotate, but it’s also a kick in the teeth for TNW too. This has gone on too long, Smith must be relieved of his role, he’s not got a clue.

Apparently we were 'in the battle' again. Not sure 0-26 is being in the battle, except Italy WW2 style.

To go back to the opening of this thread we're now 'just' four points off the top. After next week likely six. Then we'll start talking about being level with fifth. Then we're two points, four points, off the play offs. This is exactly the same rubbish we heard last year. The only way to turn it around is to win games, and we look miles away from doing that except against other garbage teams.

The performances are the real worry. That was dire, end of season stuff from us. Some reasonable effort in defence at times but error-ridden and utterly clueless with the ball. Cannot argue with Wilkin at all. Its starting to feel like the 'playing group' (another godawful term) is losing faith with the coach. If that continues then it won't matter what any fans think, Smith will be gone.

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Just re-watched the game and defensively we did well but still passively which nullifies our attack. Put Newman, Gannon, Momirovski, Fuisitua, Bentley, Croft, Donaldson, Holroyd in and we might pull a result.
What is more disappointing is that we don't look like scoring. Even adding the above we would have probably still have lost and wouldn't have won convincingly.

An aggressive defence is needed so badly. When did we last see a big shot in defence? The Tetevano one off a year ago?

The basic skills of catching and passing were atrocious.

This. No matter what, the excuses will never end from the Smith Cultists.

Eventually, he’ll have been in charge so long that the cultists will regress into sunk cost fallacy thinking.

Smiths supporters are dwindling fast , Chris is too busy to post and Jim is even starting to question one or two things

We were tough and gritty but clueless with the ball to the point where I actually couldn’t work out what we were trying to do with the ball. I really like Cam Smith but thought he was indicative of part of our problems yesterday, too many people just passing the ball on.

I thought our two best were Sinfield and Roberts. Sinfield was the player who stood out in our expensively assembled spine. He also stood up to the defensive test better than I thought. Not perfect but not a glaring issue either. Roberts was far better in the centre and made a couple of good defensive reads.

Feel bad for likes of Handley and Martin (who looks injured to me) who are running their blood to water.

Did Johnson get on? Made 0 sense having him on the bench and unused subs was something that Mac got crucified for on the regular.

That’s the first time I’ve ever seen some line speed in defence from one of Smith’s teams. Unfortunately it only lasted 10 minutes before we ran out of steam. Not surprising when they have not being coached or conditioned to play like that before under his reign. Thought Mik’s first spell was good, running hard and getting through tackles, he’s the only prop that deserves to stay at the club for me. Sangare and Lisone don’t do enough and what they do is overrated. Thought Sinfield showed promise against a decent team and it only underlined the travesty of Smith waiting so long to introduce him when Frawley is such a poor player. Sinfield’s mistake for the killer try epitomised our non existent structure and while it was him who passed the ball it could have been Smith who also threw out aimless no look passes that killed his team mates. His ponderous movement and failure to see the picture are symptomatic of the teams woes.