I see Warrington have signed Prell from Yorkshire Carnegie.
Has anyone seen him play?
Decent convert from Union?

My only issue with Walters is that there is no sign at all of him ever being a good player and I'd rather players with potential get a go ahead of him.

I haven't but i see Tony Smith still cant stay away from Kirkstall even after all this time

Ive seen him and was always impressed with him but Championship RU to Super League is a big step up.

This is very true.

Plus the overall involvement of a winger in SL will be 10x their involvement in a Championship RU game.

Thats how I see it. To me he's collamity, just runs around aimlessly and slips over a lot. Seems to carry a lot of unnecessary weight without much strength behind it. I'd much rather give someone younger a go as he's just making up numbers.

I also think of players such as Alex foster, Elliot minchella, Liam hood (I know he's a 9) who we've let go in similar time to keeping Walters who i all think have much more potential. Just seems a bad decision.

Also I know everyone keeps Saying he's a fringe player. But with all the injuries we've had he seems to be in the 19 more weeks than not. I think that's why it's brought to people attention more.

But I also agree with others, it's probably not our biggest concern. Although isn't he off contract at the end of this year anyway?

Walters looked a great prospect in the short time he played in 19's and when he first broke into first team. Not sure WTF the conditioning team have done to him but he just looks and odd shape now and has lost that line speed he had to begin with.

He's a mate of a lad I work with, scored 4 tries in a recent trial in a Warrington reserve game. Pretty fast according to my colleague and out of contract with Carnegie this season + not getting a lot of game time.

Yes Kirke was a passenger, I never said otherwise. I did say and stand by saying that Walters makes him look like Jamie Peacock, hence him and other fringe players being a key issue.

Re transition.... Yeah OK , whatever

Baldwinson & Oledzki named in Fev squad for Sunday's game v London, Walters not in the Fev 19 so there you go.

You were saying...

In all seriousness it is poor management of a young player, Oledski will have played for 2 different championship teams and our academy within a month, how is he supposed to develop properly when he spending his time learning new systems?

Another kick in the teeth for Baldwinson if Fev's 19 actually reflects how we are going to set up

It would also mean we are again running with just 3 props

Didn't think Oledzki would be in the 17 unless they were doubts over a couple of starters (maybe they still are and a late decision to be made?)

Yea ok whatever??
Come on we aren't 12yr old girls giving it large in t.v.




You really struggle at times with context don't you?

Not really Mark, no. I just know when people are full of it, which you very much are with your transition comments.

I'm in my 40s so I don't use phrases like "giving it large" either.



Enjoy the game tonight!

Oledzki just got off team bus at Halliwell Jones, spot on bench maybe or 18th man.

Burrow at starting hooker is...eccentric.

My previous optimism for a win tonight is fast evaporating.
I fear for another Cas-type drubbing.

In fairness to Macv I can see the tactic there, Hill Simms, Westwood and Westerman are all starting and all are not very mobile, perhaps burrow could catch them cold early doors

What I dont understand is how Walters (and arguably Delaney) can get picked over Baldwinson (or Oledski for that matter), especially when Wire are playing with the previously mentioned big pack

Are you having a laugh with that one? Westerman and Hill are very mobile. In fact looking at our starting pack, other than Sutcliffe they are more mobile than any of our other pack members.

I fear more about Patten back in for them, with a point to prove. A cracking player who can become very good.

Your second statement by the way is very much right.

no. its bloody stupidity

and 3 props flogged to death again with an ineffectual walters on the bench.
I like BM but just occasionally he has these WTF is he playing at moments.

I hope he proves me wrong but i'm glad I tipped warringtonb

It's an odd one with Burrow unless Parcell is struggling a little with an injury and he wants to protect him from the early exchanges.

The three prop thing confuses me. it's like he wants to make it harder on his players.

and it so obviously didn't work last week, despite people saying it did simply because we won

Hetherington states that Mcdermott has four games to save his job and he comes up with the goods. A strong 17 with clear roles, committed defence, decisive interchanges and an off the cuff attack.

Now the first game after he's off the hook and he seems to lose the plot selection wise. I'm hoping the performance is closer to the last four games than 2016.

That shot from Westy should have been a red... shoulder to the head?