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| How's JP getting on now he's back from injury?
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| Quote ="upsetzombie"How's JP getting on now he's back from injury?'"
He seems to be good tbh, we look more solid with him in the team.
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| Quote ="upsetzombie"How's JP getting on now he's back from injury?'"
He looked very jaded last week.
I don't think he anywhere near 100%, you try telling JP that.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"He seems to be good tbh, we look more solid with him in the team.'"
Quality player, even below par he'll contribute well.
Bet he's looking to raise his game against our pack.
Always look forward to JP v Moz
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| If fit McGuire would surely be on the bench - he didn't even start after a good run of games.
Ali - has to be on the bench. Leeds play it tight for the first 20mins, complete sets with solid painful defence, then lift it 6 gears when Ali comes on.
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| Should be an interesting battle across the pitch this evening
JP vs Moz especially, but also Buderus vs Monaghan, Sinny vs Briers, Myler vs Burrow and Ali vs Solomona
Will be interesting to see how Zak manages to handle Monaghan, and vice versa.
Maybe change my earlier team, and start Kirke/Hauraki with Ali on the bench = more impact.
Would interesting having Leuluai on the bench with Bailey starting again = more impact, but would probably still start Leuluai.
To win i think we need to stop Briers and Westwood, if we can control them and not allow Briers especially to control the game, then we could easily beat them.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Ali - has to be on the bench. Leeds play it tight for the first 20mins, complete sets with solid painful defence, then lift it 6 gears when Ali comes on.'"
What will they do for the remaining 55 minutes after he's broken down injured (again)?
Donald and Diskin may have "reneged" (to use a Swiftcorn-ism) on their new contracts, but at least they're off the salary cap and not stealing a living like Lauitiiti.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"What will they do for the remaining 55 minutes after he's broken down injured (again)?
Donald and Diskin may have "reneged" (to use a Swiftcorn-ism) on their new contracts, but at least they're off the salary cap and not stealing a living like Lauitiiti.'"
The try he scored last week (starting from Back-door-Bailey) to the sweeping passing which found Ali lob to Zak and getting on the end of the return pass was worth attending just to see that move. It 'did it' for me.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"It 'did it' for me.'"
I trust you cleaned up afterwards and apologised?
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"If fit McGuire would surely be on the bench - he didn't even start after a good run of games.
Ali - has to be on the bench. Leeds play it tight for the first 20mins, complete sets with solid painful defence, then lift it 6 gears when Ali comes on.'"
I'd say Leeds need to play tight across the board of the match.
Tight in defence, and keep ball retention high. Play the hands when we have built the pressure etc.
I'd like to see Leeds turn the screw on Warrington, let them know they are in for an arm wrestle and just see if we can get them a bit twitchy. Their last few games have been training sessions so let's give them some niggle down the middle as a shot in the arm.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I trust you cleaned up afterwards and apologised?
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It only stays warm for so long.
In good company I didn't feel the need to apologise.
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"I'd say Leeds need to play tight across the board of the match.
Tight in defence, and keep ball retention high. Play the hands when we have built the pressure etc.
I'd like to see Leeds turn the screw on Warrington, let them know they are in for an arm wrestle and just see if we can get them a bit twitchy. Their last few games have been training sessions so let's give them some niggle down the middle as a shot in the arm.'"
I don't think we can play any other way. Especially with Senior out, Leeds havn't got the flair to go around Warrington. Up the middle all night tonight. Huge night for the forwards. Buderus will be key out of dummy half. Leeds have also got to move up on Warrington in defence. They are sensational outwide, I expect our three quarters to be moving up pretty quickly in defence to smother any attack.
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| Quote ="Beastwood"Probably team for tonight:
Smith
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Hope your god listens to your prayers if this is the team that takes to the field....... Ughhh..... Kirke at LF , Ali starting, Hauraki at all, Delaney and Ablett at centre, an in - form Burrow dropped to bench.....
You must be on the wacky backy
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| Quote ="thebloodbath"The try he scored last week (starting from =#FF4000Back-door-Bailey) to the sweeping passing which found Ali lob to Zak and getting on the end of the return pass was worth attending just to see that move. It 'did it' for me.'"
lol made me smile that.
The weather could have a huge influence today if it curbs our passing zip.
But that is exactly why it's important, if we can manage a win (even a last second drop goal) against you lot at Headingly, especially if the ball is wet and greasy, then that will be huge for us. Real belief could be built on that.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Hope your god listens to your prayers if this is the team that takes to the field....... Ughhh..... Kirke at LF , Ali starting, Hauraki at all, Delaney and Ablett at centre, an in - form Burrow dropped to bench.....
You must be on the wacky backy'"
I thought we were sacking Burrow for a show pony? Gone off that idea? Jump back on the band wagon!
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Hope your god listens to your prayers if this is the team that takes to the field....... Ughhh..... Kirke at LF , Ali starting, Hauraki at all, Delaney and Ablett at centre, an in - form Burrow dropped to bench.....
You must be on the wacky backy'"
I'm fairly certain we'll see Ablett at centre, burrow on the bench and no McShane.
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| Quote ="west_leeds_rhino"I thought we were sacking Burrow for a show pony? Gone off that idea? Jump back on the band wagon!'"
Never suggested sacking Burrow ... Said many many many many times I like the guy's many many many qualities. Just don't think he is a scrum half....his stature leaves little option.
However, as a potential pretty special game winning try scorer at the moment, he has to start....and he certainly never lets anybody down in defence.
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| Quote ="Beastwood"I'm fairly certain we'll see Ablett at centre, burrow on the bench and no McShane.'"
Does that include some sort of sarcasm that I'm missing? Why would Burrow be on the bench? When was the last time he was? Especially with McGuire and Webb having late fitness tests...
I agree on McShane, but he way Ablett has been playing lately my money would be him at loose and Smith at centre. Of course if Webb is not fit then its Smith to FB and Ablett would just have to go centre.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile". Just don't think he is a scrum half....'"
Somebody tell Burrow that he has been playing in the wrong position his whole career. Whilst your at it look to bump into Tony Smith and Brian McDermott tonight and tell them they were/are wrong. Then when Bluey is back in town next week tell him too.
TS is a nice bloke and the type of person to feel sorry for you.
Bluey will probs just smile but have confussed thoughts in his mind.
Then McDermott will simply tell you to fu*k off.
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| Quote ="Beastwood"I'm fairly certain we'll see Ablett at centre, burrow on the bench and no McShane.'"
In fairness the lack of enterprise will mean you're right about Ablett....but will be surprised to see Burrow on the bench. Tough on McShane.
Seems along with the (apparent) def omission of Burgess, Clarkson and Pitts the club has a present policy of punishing the guys in form ......
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Somebody tell Burrow that he has been playing in the wrong position his whole career. Whilst your at it look to bump into Tony Smith and Brian McDermott tonight and tell them they were/are wrong. Then when Bluey is back in town next week tell him too.'"
I give up ( nearly ) ..... Again, considering his size where would you play him if not scrum half ? ? Even as an impact hooker he looks out of place in the scrum ...
His qualities cannot be ignored.... But neither can his size when deciding where to place him.
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| Quote ="benduke15"To win i think we need to stop Briers and Westwood, if we can control them and not allow Briers especially to control the game, then we could easily beat them.'"
Even if you stop Briers and Westwood, Warrington are not 'easily beaten' by anybody. Whoever wins tonight it will be a tough encounter.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"I don't think we can play any other way. Especially with Senior out, Leeds havn't got the flair to go around Warrington. Up the middle all night tonight. Huge night for the forwards. Buderus will be key out of dummy half. Leeds have also got to move up on Warrington in defence. They are sensational outwide, I expect our three quarters to be moving up pretty quickly in defence to smother any attack.'"
The entire pack have to get their hands dirty that's for sure.
Leeds should move the ball, they just need to execute the right plays with safe hands at the right end of the park. We can't gift them the ball. We may as well blow a hole through our heads.
We have improved since our last meeting with them. I just feel Sinfield has to be the difference maker if we are to win. I'm taking a lot from the Catalans game. We won that battle because we ground the frogs down in the first quarter and the scoreboard blew out in the final quarter. In that first quarter we completed sets, built pressure and rewarded ourself with repeat set after repeat set. Sinfield pulled the strings with these kicks and he marshalled us through our sets. We have to do the same again. Build the platform, you've got a chance. Playing this way though your pack has to get on top, which is no mean feat against Wire. Mozzer and Wood are always a joy to watch with their carting skills.
Roll on 8pm.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"Even if you stop Briers and Westwood, Warrington are not 'easily beaten' by anybody. Whoever wins tonight it will be a tough encounter.'"
For me they are Wires key players, so if we can shut them out, then winning would be easier. But yes it will be a tight game, but i think we will win 25-18
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| If Warrington turn up and play like they did against Cas on Sky a few weeks back it will be a long night. I'm not underplaying our strength by any means. Indeed, I think we'll fare better than most, but I fancy Warrington for the big one this year and they're more or less at full strength tonight.
We need to convert our chances. Delaney and Ali need to make metres out wide and all the forwards need to have a big game.
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