Quote ="Bullseye"Jeez! This is like reading the Daily Mail!
As you correctly guess I am a civil servant and there are a few numpties in the service albeit far fewer than when I joined 15 years ago. I can't speak for HMRC, DWP or DSS but I can speak for Cabinet Office, DCLG, DFE, and DECC. I work with Councils, Emergency Services, Health, Utilities and the Military who've all got good things to say about us and colleagues. In a previous job I know a large number of companies with good things to say about the Foreign Office from my time there.
Sure, there are some poor performers as there are in all walks of life. Businesses go under all the time too but they never seem to get the flak devoted to public servants. Neither the private or the puiblic sector is perfect nor does either have a monopoly on doing "real work".
I rarely get on my high horse but I take this lazy generalisation and prejudice personally.'"
Sam, again as for Andy, I'm sorry if I've offended you with my position on this issue, however that doesn't change the experiences I've had on a number of occasions with HMRC.
I have no doubt whatsoever that there are a whole number of reasons why the people working in the Middlesbrough office of HMRC are unable to help me with my queries due to a lack of Training / Management Support / IT Systems, although there is no excuse for the attitude they take when telling you that "any issues are the responsibility of the individual", when all you want to do when calling them is correct any inaccuracies or omissions (usually on their part) so that you are paying the correct amount of tax.
Again of course these same issues occur in the private sector probably as regularly, however the point I would like to make, and that I believe that McF is also trying to make, is that in the private sector there are far greater consequences of poor performance for either the individual or the business. It appears from their attitude that there are still significant numbers of people working in the public sector who do not sufficiently appreciate that they are working in a service industry, and as such need to support their "client" rather than either ignore them or attempt to belittle them.
I'm sure that there are very many supportive and knowledgeable people working in the public sector (just like the private sector) but unfortunately until the front line of pulbic facing personnel are "re-educated" to provide a positive experience for the members of the public with which they interface, the "good guys" will continue their work largely unseen...