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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"With Catalan, Huddersfield, Wire and Pie eaters coming up, ------- Where is our next win going to come from - Not in the next 4 weeks based on last nights rabbits in headlights game'"
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| After 2015 I was prepared for top 8 for awhile ,still competing untill the team building which I expected brought us back to a top 4 team , but the recruitment has been awful. After last season Being bottom for such a long period I thought there would have been a lot of activity at staff level .Good heavens we have three regular first teamers aged 35 who will be leaving this year and probably Delaney too .If we survive again this season what about 2018 ? Waiting for the latest bit of spin from Mr Hetherington
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blah blah b;ah blah, injuries best side on the field etr etr.
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| I preferred it when the club hadn't released a statement At least there was hope that they were looking to address the problems instead of blaming injuries.
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| No change in playing or coaching personnel and our tactic is to hope things get better when players come back off injury. Sounds alot like last year that saw us dead last until Segeyaro saved our season.
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| We badly miss those sat in the stands the likes of Ferres and Galloway 'the leadership group' geez grasping at straws there even for you Gary.
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| Reading that interview maybe GH should go aswell he's far too close to Mc.D if he aint gonna pull the trigger.
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"Not many coaches could have got through last year"
No, because every other coach at an equivalent club in professional sport would have been fired for that level of attainment.
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"Not many coaches could have got through last year"
No, because every other coach at an equivalent club in professional sport would have been fired for that level of attainment.
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| Injuries eh! What complete bo11ocks. Instead of sacking the coach and improving the team you decided we'd have a squad of 30 rather than 25 so don't use that excuse.
Problem is 20 of them are championship level. It's time you took your trophy photos off your bedroom wall and concentrated on rebuilding the embarrassing set-up we currently have or take your hook.
In a way I'm glad it's Catalans next week so when it inevitably goes wrong again with no away supporters he can hear us.
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| It's about time GH stood up to be counted , last night's carnage has been coming for a while , and he has been asleep at the wheel . We all accepted that the achievements of the ageing squad in 2015 was nothing short of remarkable , but the way he has overseen the ongoing transition has been shocking , in fact it smacks of abject mismanagement at boardroom level .
If he thinks the replacements he brought in were good enough to sustain the club as a major force he is sadly delusional .
McDermott shoulders his share of the blame rightly so , and maybe he has run his course at Leeds and a new voice is needed in the dressing room , but for a CEO to allow this to happen on his watch is criminal .
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| THERE WILL be no knee-jerk reaction to Leeds Rhinos’ worst Super League defeat. Chief executive Gary Hetherington described the 66-10 loss at Castleford Tigers as “embarrassing” and admitted everybody at the club is now under pressure.
But he rejected the possibility of signings to strengthen the squad and gave no indication he is considering a change of coach.
The Rhinos have endured a nightmare first half against a red hot Castleford side with winger Greg Minikin crossing for a hat trick
The result on Thursday night was Leeds’ biggest margin of defeat in Super League and the most points scored against them since Wigan won 68-14 at Central Park in August, 1996.
“No Super League team should concede 12 tries,” Hetherington said.
“It was an embarrassing experience for all our fans, players and coaching staff.
“Without taking anything away from Castleford, who were very good and have been so far this season, we were really poor from start to finish.
“We didn’t compete in any phase of the game.”
Hetherington added: “We had a shocking week with senior players dropping out of the team leading up to the game, but those who did play could have and should have done better.
“It was a significant defeat which we need to reflect on, then bounce back for next Friday against Catalans Dragons.
“At this early stage of the season everyone in the organisation is now under pressure to react accordingly.”
It was an embarrassing experience for all our fans, players and coaching staff. Everyone in the organisation is now under pressure to react accordingly.
Leeds Rhinos’ chief executive, Gary Hetherington.
McDermott has been coach of Rhinos since 2011, leading them to three Super League Grand Final triumphs, two Challenge Cup wins and the league leaders’ shield - including the treble two years ago.
Rhinos stuck with him last year when Leeds finished ninth and failed to qualify for the play-offs for the first time and it seems that will not change.
Pressed about McDermott’s future, Hetherington said: “There is constant pressure on the coaching staff and all the players and that’s why you have to employ people who can manage that and do their job well.
“Brian McDermott has always been strong at times of adversity. Not many coaches could have got through last year.
“He showed his strength through a long period of time and we need our senior players to be strong - and to be back on the field as soon as possible.”
Illness, suspension and injury meant Rhinos faced Tigers without Rob Burrow, Mitch Garbutt, Carl Ablett, Stevie Ward and Jamie Jones-Buchanan from the team which beat Salford six days earlier.
Hetherington said Rhinos’ squad is “strong, given a reasonable number of injuries”, but the loss of so many senior players was a major blow.
“We were already without Brett Ferres and Keith Galloway, so most of our senior leadership group, at this early stage of the season, was sat on the sidelines,” he said.
“It is crucial we get as many of those players back and as quickly as possible. At times like this you are looking to your leadership group, but most of them were unavailable.
“Those who are there have got to step up and take on the challenge, because Super League is such a tough, unforgiving competition.
“That’s a reason rather than an excuse, Cas were exceptional, but even so no Super League team should concede 12 tries - it was desperately disappointing and embarrassing for us all.”
Asked if players could be brought in from other clubs, Hetherington insisted.”
WTF. I don't expect GH to roll over, I expected vague promises. But it seems that we are back to the full on denial and blame everything other than the quality of the squad and the lack of effective leadership. I was gutted last night but this "statement" is far far worse. I fear this season may be worse than last.
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| Hope that's the "Vote of Confidence"!
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| Quote ="craigizzard""Not many coaches could have got through last year"
No, because every other coach at an equivalent club in professional sport would have been fired for that level of attainment.'"
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| Aye, Leicester city just sacked a man who pulled off a miricale last year.I didn't agree with it but last year is last year, you can't live in the past forever. Mac got one years grace which he was amazingly lucky to get but no signs point to things improving whatsoever. Crazy just to let another season drift along in hope again imo but it seems that will be the way from GH's response.
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| GH and Mr Caddick came in and saved the club and put it on a sound footing.I bet if it were up for sale now there would be more than one or two good potential owners putting in bids
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| I wander if Phil Clarke has recovered yet. He was so excited at Leeds getting thrashed he sounded like he creamed his pants several times
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| Quote ="head"I wander if Phil Clarke has recovered yet. He was so excited at Leeds getting thrashed he sounded like he creamed his pants several times'"
I imagine he spent the day relaxing at home watching a re-run of the sky coverage.
I expect he will have donned his scrum cap and his shoulder pads followed by the norweb shirt and then indulged in vigorous pleasure of the Palm surrounded by a sea of soiled kleenex emitting the occasional highly pitched squeal of "yes minikin, yes"
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| Quote ="head"I wander if Phil Clarke has recovered yet. He was so excited at Leeds getting thrashed he sounded like he creamed his pants several times'"
I heard staff at the Mendahose Jungle found an empty husk of a man stuck to the seat in one of the cubicles of the gents this morning.
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| Is there a cashflow issue? Does anybody with experience fancy having a butchers at Leeds latest accounts and see if anything looks odd? Nothing seems to explain the lack of investment vs amount of income.
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"
WTF. I don't expect GH to roll over, I expected vague promises. But it seems that we are back to the full on denial and blame everything other than the quality of the squad and the lack of effective leadership. I was gutted last night but this "statement" is far far worse. I fear this season may be worse than last.'"
I have searched for the other article but have been unable to find it ( YEP) Before the season started GH did an interview/ wrote/ sent a piece in....the gist or my interpretation of it was that Leeds could not have another season like last...that the performance would be monitored and if bad would be reviewed mid season.
Taking the speech you quoted .... Whilst I note he says we will not be recruiting anymore players... at least ,however small there is the vague hope that should a player become available then we will get him...that is the way things have been conducted recently...Since as Cronulla lost and our desperate for a hooker then maybe he could do a swap for another player ..though my preference would have been for the money..
Whilst he says he has faith in the coach.... I will take this line
" AT THIS EARLY STAGE OF THE SEASON EVERYONE IN THE ORGANISATION IS NOW UNDER PRESSURE TO REACT ACCORDINGLY .” For me that is now on record ..if the players, coaches do not change results then something has to change....don't see any other way of interpreting that.
Except that GH has a habit of contradicting himself. e.g. when in charge of what was Leeds Carnegie he wanted to ring fence the premiership ..he felt Super league was the perfect template of how a sport should be run....so I was surprised that he backed the new format...though perhaps the other stance suited at the time.
Anyway I know he keeps his cards close to his chest.....so I for now will give benefit of doubt if things continue to spiral he will act to stop it.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Huddersfield are as bad as us and that is a must win both sides will be targeting. I can't see us getting anything from the other three and it could get messy again in one or two of them.
We had 9 first teamers out due to injury, what was Rhinos excuse.
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| Quote ="Giantscorpio"
We had a fair few out too but if you want to compare injury lists again and use that as an excuse then fair enough.the truth is both teams are sh**e and it is a big game now at the bottom end of the league.
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| True. We only had 8 first teamers missing and those that made it might as well have been missing too.
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| Its time for him to go NOW
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