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| Quote ="batleyrhino"It's on the frontpage of the superleague website. Lots of interesting stats on there from 2005 onwards.'"
Cheers, batley.
I thought Webb had scored more than that this season.
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| Quote ="gulfcoast_highwayman"Cheers, batley.
I thought Webb had scored more than that this season.'"
No problem, anytime.
No problem, anytime.
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| 2 and a half Superleague games without conceding a try, surely that is some sort of record?
It's a hell of an achievement regardless.
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| The St Helens V Leeds fixture will be game number 1,999 of the SL Regular Rounds. The honour of being the 2,000th game is going to Wigan V Wakefield kicking off half an hour later.
The next try Leeds score will be their 1,700th in the SL Reg Rds.
The next place goal Leeds kick will be their 1,500th in the SL Reg Rds.
Of the 1,499 place goals kicked (from above) Kevin Sinfield has planted 666 (one for fans of the Occult, the Omen and Genesis)
This week's coincidence (haven't had one of these before mind) is:
Carl Hall: PL 10 + 2 subs, 6 tries
Ryan Hall: PL 10 + 2 subs, 5 tries (bugger)
Having touched on Goals against last week, here are the top try scorers against Leeds of the SL Era:
19 - Robbie Paul
16 - Lesley Vainikolo, Paul Sculthorpe
14 - Anthony Sullivan, Paul Newlove, Gareth Raynor
12 - Tevita Vaikona, Keiron Cunningham, Henry Paul
11 - Leon Pryce, Henry Fa'afili
10 - Anthony Stewart, Kris Radlinski, Jon Wells, Jason Robinson, James Lowes
And Finally
In Memory of the recently departed:
Jamie Thackray: PL 6 + 28, 7 tries, 28 Points.
Debut: 4th August 2006 (Hull 23 Leeds 16)
Full Debut: 18th August 2006 (Wakefield 12 Leeds 14)
Headingley Debut: 11th August 2006 (Leeds 18 Wigan 20)
Headingley Full Debut: 1st September 2006 (Leeds 54 Warrington 16)
Longest Run Of Consecutive Appearances: 27
Longest Run Of Consecutive Starts: 3
Final Appearance: 7th September 2007 (Leeds 6 Hull 17)
Edit: And after the stuff up on the Hall's tries I don't think we'll be having another for a while either.
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| tvoc in Super League era, who is our most succesful winger (in terms of trys per game ratio)
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| Quote ="Lawrie"tvoc in Super League era, who is our most succesful winger (in terms of trys per game ratio)'"
Cant you even be d to look upwards a few posts?
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| Quote ="DISA"Cant you even be d to look upwards a few posts?'"
Paul Sterling and a few others arent on that list
TIA
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| Quote ="Lawrie"Paul Sterling and a few others arent on that list
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Would it then be fair to assume that they're not the most successful? Otherwise presumably they'd be on the list.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Would it then be fair to assume that they're not the most successful? Otherwise presumably they'd be on the list.'"
Have we got Mr Rivett?
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| Quote ="Lawrie"tvoc in Super League era, who is our most succesful winger (in terms of trys per game ratio)'"
In those terms the four most successful (Williams, Calderwood, Donald and Bai) ratios appear in the list on the previous page.
Leeds SL wingers list (open to suggestions for any others for consideration):
Danny Williams: 15, 12, 0.80
Mark Calderwood: 143, 106, 0.74
Scott Donald: 74, 53, 0.72
Marcus Bai: 63, 45, 0.71
Paul Sterling: 102, 55, 0.54
Francis Cummins: 268, 136, 0.51
Graham Mackay: 20, 10, 0.50
Lee Smith: 58, 29, 0.50
Karl Pratt: 80, 38, 0.48
Leroy Rivett: 68, 30, 0.44
Ryan Hall: 12, 5, 0.42
Note: These are ratios (all games SL Era) for player's who predominantly played on the wing. These are player complete totals regardless of position played on any given day.
You may wish to exclude Cummins as his total comprises starts as follows:
Wing 124, Full Back 81, Centre 46, Stand Off 4 + 13 Bench
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| Quote ="tvoc"IYou may wish to exclude Cummins as his total comprises starts as follows:
Wing 124, Full Back 81, Centre 46, Stand Off 4 + 13 Bench'"
You mean you are short changing us and not giving us enough detail? Getting lazy tvoc.
Out of interest though I am sure you do have the actual record for Cummins from those starting on the wing? I did not realize he played so many times from the Centre berth, but cant see he would have scored too many of those tries from that position.
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| Quote ="DISA"You mean you are short changing us and not giving us enough detail?
Getting lazy tvoc.'"
A full refund is available to anyone not entirely satisfied.
Quote ="DISA"Out of interest though I am sure you do have the actual record for Cummins from those starting on the wing? I did not realize he played so many times from the Centre berth, but cant see he would have scored too many of those tries from that position.'"
I didn't and don't even have the ratios by player but the information to get to the ratios is there should I wish to retrieve it and that was a two minute job.
To get to the split figures per player would be possible but it would take quite some time. For the purpose of the list produced, I'd have to do the same for the other players also.
Something for another day perhaps. If I could get to the split figures easily I would but unfortunately I can't. Sorry.
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| Quote ="tvoc"A full refund is available to anyone not entirely satisfied.
I didn't and don't even have the ratios by player but the information to get to the ratios is there should I wish to retrieve it and that was a two minute job.
To get to the split figures per player would be possible but it would take quite some time. For the purpose of the list produced, I'd have to do the same for the other players also.
Something for another day perhaps. If I could get to the split figures easily I would but unfortunately I can't. Sorry.'"
Thats fine tvoc. Have a feeling Cummins from the wing will show pretty good ratios though. Not that it does not above.
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| Quote ="tvoc"
Having touched on Goals against last week, here are the top try scorers against Leeds of the SL Era:
19 - Robbie Paul
16 - Lesley Vainikolo, Paul Sculthorpe
14 - Anthony Sullivan, Paul Newlove, Gareth Raynor
12 - Tevita Vaikona, Keiron Cunningham, Henry Paul
11 - Leon Pryce, Henry Fa'afili
10 - Anthony Stewart, Kris Radlinski, Jon Wells, Jason Robinson, James Lowes
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That would be a really good trivia question. I doubt many people would come up with Robbie Paul as the top try scorer against Leeds.
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| Kevin Sinfield - Currently Heads the following lists at Leeds:
SL Era (All Comps)
Most Appearances - 281
Most Goals - 779
Most Drop Goals - 16
Most Points - 1,794
SL Era (Regular Rds)
Most Appearances - 232
Most Goals - 669
Most Points - 1,501
His consecutive points scoring appearance run currently stands at 51
Should he score the 6 points he needs for 1,800 he'll become only the 3rd player in Leeds' history to do so for the club.
The others:
Lewis Jones 2,920
Joe Thompson 1,883
If you're looking for Leeds 50/50 opponent of the SL Era (head to head) then look no further than St Helens.
By Comp:
Played 43, Won 21, Drawn 0, Lost 22, Pts For 1050, Pts Agst 1121
SL Regular Rounds:
Played 31, Won 15, Drawn 0, Lost 16, Pts For 767, Pts Agst 842
SL P/O:
Played 6, Won 3, Drawn 0, Lost 3, Pts For 148, Pts Agst 124
Challenge Cup:
Played 6, Won 3, Drawn 0, Lost 3, Pts For 135, Pts Agst 155
By Venue
At Headingley:
Played 17, Won 11, Drawn 0, Lost 6, Pts For 504, Pts Agst 379
At Knowsley Road:
Played 22, Won 8, Drawn 0, Lost 14, Pts For 442, Pts Agst 641
At Neutral Venues:
Played 4, Won 2, Drawn 0, Lost 2, Pts For 104, Pts Agst 101
This week's coincidence:
The half time score last week at Knowsley Road was the same as the last time the two teams met in the Grand Final in 2007.
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Maybe you should do like cricket and have a minimum number of appearances (innings) before the stats start to count ? (Say 5 or 10 ?)'"
When doing [url=http://thecastlefordtigers.co.uk/playerrecords.phpsimilar for Cas[/url I opted for a minimum of 20 appearances.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Kevin Sinfield - Currently Heads the following lists at Leeds:
SL Era (All Comps)
Most Appearances - 281
Most Goals - 779
Most Drop Goals - 16
Most Points - 1,794
SL Era (Regular Rds)
Most Appearances - 232
Most Goals - 669
Most Points - 1,501
His consecutive points scoring appearance run currently stands at 51
Should he score the 6 points he needs for 1,800 he'll become only the 3rd player in Leeds' history to do so for the club.
The others:
Lewis Jones 2,920
Joe Thompson 1,883
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He could be second by the end of the season then, a long way to go to catch first though, he’ll have to start scoring some four pointers to get anywhere near that.
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| Quote ="'Juice' Terry"He could be second by the end of the season then, a long way to go to catch first though, he’ll have to start scoring some four pointers to get anywhere near that.'"
I'd be amazed if he got to the top of the list, but I reckon he's pretty much nailed on for second place. Add that to the fact he's the only player to have captained us to 2 titles, has lead us in more major finals than any other player (I think) and, all being well, he's got a good few years to add to this tally and you're looking at one of the true Leeds greats in the making.
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| Quote ="StuMain"When doing [url=http://thecastlefordtigers.co.uk/playerrecords.phpsimilar for Cas[/url I opted for a minimum of 20 appearances.'"
Lee Crooks was a remarkable player, achieving as much as he did in the game before he was [url=http://thecastlefordtigers.co.uk/playerprofile.php?pid=218born[/url
Only joking (easily done)
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"I'd be amazed if he got to the top of the list, but I reckon he's pretty much nailed on for second place. Add that to the fact he's the only player to have captained us to 2 titles, has lead us in more major finals than any other player (I think) and, all being well, he's got a good few years to add to this tally and you're looking at one of the true Leeds greats in the making.'"
He'd have had another one, had it not been for that clown Lance ....
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"I'd be amazed if he got to the top of the list, but I reckon he's pretty much nailed on for second place. '"
A quick tally suggests he might not be far away by the end of his current Leeds contract in 2011. By that time he'll be just turned 31 so it's quite possible there could be another deal for another couple of seasons (obviously depending on several factors but Keith Senior and Jamie Peacock would be current examples of how it could pan out.)
Sinfield has only started amassing serious seasonal totals since he took on the goal kicking role full time (naturally enough) in 2003. In the last 5 full seasons he has knocked off 1,448 points at an average of 289 a season.
If he can maintain that average over the next 4 seasons (including this one, taking him to the end of his current deal) then he could be within touching distance of the summit. Of course this all requires his body to stay in one piece which is far from a given but (like Senior) he has a good track record so far in that regard.
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| Which also means he will break Andy Farrells superleague record of 2228 points.
I expect the only other person who is close to the record is Paul Deacon do you know how many he is on?
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| Quote ="Lord_Percy"I'd be amazed if he got to the top of the list, but I reckon he's pretty much nailed on for second place. Add that to the fact he's the only player to have captained us to 2 titles, has lead us in more major finals than any other player (I think) and, all being well, he's got a good few years to add to this tally and you're looking at one of the true Leeds greats in the making.'"
There's also the possibility of him coaching the club at some point in the future.
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| Looking at the winger stats, if you factor in the 'assuming the role of a forward', it shows how important Bai was to the team (despite the one mistake that any player could make!!!).
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