Of course it did - all clubs with chairmen who are on the ball (i.e. everyone else) have their signings wrapped up and announced on the 1st Sept

You have signed Tom briscoe's younger brother Luke, who is a stand off or FB, he should make an excellent SL player.

Think Hull (well the old management, Hetherington's?) have fooked up not keeping him.

Washbrook had been told his services were no longer needed iirc

Signed for Wakey I think.

Odd talent this bloke.

I know he has filled in many positions but he looked a great talent a few years ago. But hasn't lived up to the early hype.

Maybe a regular run-out in a pencilled in position will help him. Obviously Agar will be all over that.

Poor man's Kevin Sinfield.

Sort of a 6, but not really quick enough.

Kind of a 13, but not really physical enough.

Sinfield gets away with it by having an excellent handling and kicking game. Washbrook doesn't really have either to the same degree.

Did he? I think I must have blinked and missed that run, pass, tackle or whatever involvement it was that made people think he was a prospect.

I share Gilder's assessment.

Without signing anyone else, I think this is how we are looking in position wise..

Full Backs: Brent Webb, Ben Jones-Bishop, Zak Hardaker, Luke Briscoe, Lee Smith.
Wing: Ben Jones-Bishop, Zak Hardaker, Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Jamel Chisholm, Lee Smith.
Centre: Zak Hardaker, Kallum Watkins, Ben Jones-Bishop, Brett Delaney, Carl Ablett, Lee Smith, Aston Wilson.
Stand Off: Danny McGuire, Kevin Sinfield, Stevie Ward, Luke Briscoe.
Scrum Half: Robbie Burrow, Danny McGuire.
Props: Ryan Bailey, Kylie Leuluai, Jamie Peacock, Richard Moore, Ian Kirke, Luke Ambler, Kyle Amor, Brad Singleton.
Hookers: Paul McShane, Liam Hood, Kevin Sinfield, Rob Burrow.
Second Rowers: Carl Ablett, Brett Delaney, Jamie Jones-Buchanan, Chris Clarkson, Ian Kirke, Weller Hauraki, Jay Pitts.
Loose Forwards: Kevin Sinfield, Chris Clarkson, Jarred Stewart, Jay Pitts.

You love a list you lad.

Thought you wrote "lisp" there for a sec.........

My bad.

You're cup's half empty this week old boy.



I liked the look of him when he came on the scene. That hype has never been converted, but being used left, right and centre has left him a little in no-mans-land.

Or Tansey land as i call it.

Your



Smith (Tansey mk 2) has been handed the bum steer too ...never given a run in one position (FB) to claim his own/always asked to fill in a different position each time selected.

I hope Leeds don't make Hardaker, SO (or Ablett, LF) a Tansey mk 3

I don't believe that Hardaker is a similar character to either Tansey (too big for his boots) or Smith (the grass is always greener) but only time will tell.

On the recruitment front for 2012 with Hardaker proving he could be a centre long-term and Hall and BJB on the wings with Watkins as the other centre, does it now make sense to sign a marquee centre? Would a better option be to get Senior back on a short-term contract (would he resign with the Rhinos for 2012 ?) and plan for Hardaker in the long-term? One difficulty might be the full-back position as 2012 is Webb's last season and either BJB or Hardaker could then slot in. Therefore we might still need to sign a centre.

Not yet satisfied the likes of Watkins can stay injury free for long enough...that should dictate the decision. However, as I have stated many times previously.....ONLY sign a player IF he is better than what the club currently has on the playing register.

So...Inglis, yes but another Delaney, no.

But would Senior fit the bill on a short-term basis?

God no.

Would rather see Wilson, other young lads and even Hauraki as extra centre cover

But you would support signing a new centre if they were better than what we already have (if any are available)?

Would [iyou[/i say no to Ingliss, or even Tom Briscoe (if he was available) ?

No I would not, one person i would love to see in a Leeds shirt.

Now Luke Briscoe has joined us, is there a chance?

Not sure it makes much difference with one of his brothers moving to us, however, would like to see him move to us.

Not really.. still has one brother at Hull FC still in Jack Briscoe, at least i think he is Tom and Luke's brother.

Yes he does still have a brother at hull