Agree fans need to get behind the players from the off & be the 18th, 19th & 20th man. The players in return need to give it their all & feed of the fans.

The coach needs to be brave also & be prepared to throw a few curveballs mid game if things need to change.

I think I said last week Hull KR fans were getting giddy for no reason, people are really over stating the ‘Tony Smith Factor’ they have won 2 ‘cup finals’ against us and FC but still find themselves 2nd to bottom, now don’t get me wrong we are far from being out of the , but if we can get a good win on Sunday I think we’re on our way to being safe, but that’s a massive IF!

FWIW I thought KR were dire tonight, if Huddersfield had have been a bit better in attack they would have walked that game.

Mellor looks a decent prospect for us runs good lines and has a bit of pace

Mellor just seems a bit lightweight but he has ability and him with Martin would give us much improved threat on the edges and link the centres better IMO.

Mellor Martin and Ward that's 3 pacey second rowers who all run
Good lines.Throw Merrin in the mix and the back row looks very good.

OK I can't see Leeds going down but I don't see a lot of wins either - if Cas had a decent half back Leeds would have lost there also.

The quality of the forwards and half backs - not convinced about Lui - is still a concern.

They should beat Hull - who have a big game next week

If Hull come with the right attitude and not an eye on next week they should be favourites. Ki

That is a big ask for Hull - the only consistent thing about them is their inconsistency - the CC is their only chance of winning something can't see a meaningless game against Leeds distracting them from that goal

How is the cc their only chance of winning something? They have pretty much the same chance of winning the cup or GF - pretty much none I would have said but the same, nonetheless

They are 2 games away from winning the CC - something they have done recently - the same cannot be said for the GF where the odds are stacked in favour of the top 2 something Hull will not achieve

Hull will have to beat saints and wire away from home to win either so I do t really see much difference. Good thi g is were much better away from home than we are at the kcom.

We wont win either btw

Thing is, Jake, you could. Radford maybe isn't the complete coach but he knows enough to get a side up for a game when it matters. Can Holbrook? Or Price?

Cant see it. We don't have the forwards to live with saints. At our best were better than warrington are at theirs imo but the difference between our best and worst is so big it's not even funny

I agree that Saints and Warrington are more consistent, although Wire just played poorly against Salford.

But both Saints and Warrington aren’t renowned for putting in performances in the really big games. If you turn up against them in a final you’ve got a good chance in my opinion.

I think if we play them at Wembley they will hammer us. A wet night in October at old Trafford's could be another matter

It’s been fantastic Garry many thanks for the journey multiple cups legendary teams and now world class stadium.
Alas now it’s time just like the golden era it’s time to go.
Lack of correct recruitment no pace in team, no spine players worthy of the shirt and no jp like forward leadership enforcer or captaincy now show that you like the goldens are out of touch.
Thanks for the journey but it’s time to do the decent thing.

I wouldn’t go that far but I’m starting to think he got lucky with the ‘golden generation’.

Give over.

He'll be retiring in a couple of years anyway.

Embarrassing.

What is it about sport that it turns fully grown adults into acting/reacting like spoilt children?

Him
Are you content with our current position yes or no?

Laughable. Just laughable.

Gary Hetherington, lucky or nor, is the best thing to happen to our club in my life time.
Maybe he has made mistakes in the last couple of years but let's just look at the success and the quality of the stadium.
This man has credit in the bank and I've never heard such a foolish position as the OP who started the thread. I'll even go as far as to say it should be deleted

Why should it be deleted? It's the current situation and because of his penny pinching and cheap options were right in the . We go down he's got nothing in the bank.

To say he is the best thing to happen, completely ignores reality, in regards Caddick. I am not taking away from Hetherington, but I am confident enough to state without Caddick it would not have been the same.

Leeds lurch
I agree with you Garry is the best thing to happen to leeds in my time as well.
Started watching 1976 and have been season ticket holder ever since.
Many many barren years highlights after 2 challenge cups were 1 Yorkshire cup and a John player special (dean bell in team)
The goldens Murray Big Mac smith ect have been awesome all started with the genius signing of Doug Laughton and Garry shrewd enough to not manage the team himself thus giving himself longevity.
Laughton decimated the team and signed bigger, harder, and faster players got rid of all the old team bar Schoey and signed world class players like sinfield with his knowledge of players and the the game.
Then we had dean bell looking after the kids and he recruited the very best.
When he left he did the same for Wigan and changed their fortunes.
Garry is now way out of touch are you happy with the last 3 years?
Are you happy with our league position ?
What should we do as a joint bottom of the league team with no manager and no world class players ?
Just because somebody once did the greatest job does not mean that it should be forever in industry and business heads roll look at the prime minister.

Hetherington also made some inspired signings who complimented the golden generation team . I dont have name them ,but wether if they were signed today they would improve this present squad I'm not sure .