I'm assuming that a pro sports players shouting on tv in front of a worldwide audience to another player the homophobic insult is wrong??????

ITS WRONG

I did not mention Zak in that post

I SAID THE RFL HAD TO INVESTIGATE COS THE SLAGGING OFF IS WRONG IN TODAYS SOCIETY

Lets also get told what went on at the World Cup.

penny is starting to drop

So if the entire Hull squad and ground on the 12th targed JJB with slurs on his looks and beard you'd all be ok if JJB was?

But Senoir escaped a drugs ban

I have said that the RFL messed up by saying they were investigating it. I believe that they did that under pressure or it was possibly just a press officer messing up. I don't think the RFL want this any more than Leeds do.



I don't know whether Zak is innocent or guilty. He is innocent until proven guilty but being declared innocent means there has to actually be a process, a process that Leeds don't seem to want to see.

I think Keith was doing his job. I don't think he was particularly mouthy or dirty, but I definitely think he wasn't going to take anything without giving it back. That to me is just RL. When Keith crossed the line I was more than willing to admit he'd done it.



I'm a Leeds fan. I have massive respect for GH. I hope that Zak is found innocent because he didn't do what he is accused of. I can understand why Leeds might want to curtail the process if he did do it because IMO the punishment will be massively harsh considering the crime.

But I'm saying it as I see it. Just because I'm a Leeds fan doesn't mean I should always think what Leeds do is right. Over the statement I feel that Leeds were wrong and I have stated why. I might be completely wrong and if I am then people will be able to judge for themselves. But IMO most of the defence of Zak is purely based on Rhinos tinted glasses.



The best thing for Zak is for a thorough investigation and to be declared innocent.

IMO the way Leeds have acted they seem to be wanting to stop an investigation from taking place. Given the nature of Leeds statement to the press oppo fans will then be able to say that the power of Leeds Rhinos managed to get Zak off. I don't think that is in Zak's interest, in Leeds interest of the interest of the sport of RL.

I don't know what Zak's family has to do with anything. I'd imagine that Silverwood's dad is pretty angry over the finger of blame being pointed at him too, but I couldn't care less about that either. If Zak has a nice labrador is that supposed to mean case over, he's a great guy and we don't need to think any further about anything? I just don't get what Zak's family has to do with anything.

I'd have thought half the Leeds team would give him crap about the beard, because his beard looks ridiculous. I don't think he'd give a toss.

Has beard and looks abuse been banned by the RFL? I think you've gone round the bend mate. (Which I'm well aware will be some contravention of discrimination against people with mental illnesses, but I simply don't GAF.)

I think the point the poster was making was that the allegations made about an individual player impact more than just the player concerned - in this case it has an impact on ZH, but also impacts on his family who definitely are innocent.

Sort of like if your partner / child / parent is accused publically of having done something illegal or wrong and is subject to an investigation - being someone close to the alleged means that it has a massive impact on you too; people look at you differently, you feel the stress of the 'question mark' hanging over your relative, etc.

Personally - Yes

So called 'sledging' has been around for years - If the individual finds the comments offensive then he has the right to lodge an official complaint. I am not talking about clearly targetted abuse here, what I am talking about is something that happens in the heat of the moment - They are both totally different situations

Most people in 'contact sports' accept this and as many people have said shake hands at the end of a game and settle differences over a beer or two.

For taking Benalyin which is literally as performance enhancing as lemsip.

Or a sugary cup of tea

You missed the point. I'm on about some of the vile racist abuse to be blunt

Maybe the BBC have a Leeds witch hunt too [urlhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/super_league/4120559.stm[/url

Not sure what point you are trying to make here?

No, you failed to make a sensible point. JJB has a daft beard and he looks a bit funny. The Hull fans and team could target for him for that if they wanted. He'd probably laugh.

Now if Hull fans and players all gave him abuse because of his skin colour then they'd be totally screwed whether JJB complained or not. The notion that Hull fans and players could racially abuse him and then the RFL ignore it because JJB didn't want the issue taken any further is bizarre.

You need to stop with your stupid trolling and just **** off, because you are effing stupid.

I think the point he's trying to make is that stupid people like him shouldn't be allowed access to the internet. I think he's making the point perfectly.

He's trying to say that Keith and Bailey should have been banned like the Halifax player was. It's a Leeds conspiracy that they got off.

Of course the fact that the article states that Keith and Bailey declared which medication they'd taken and that was found to be what caused the test failure was reason they weren't banned. The Fax player probably didn't declare his medications and so his failure was regarded as more serious.

...in the gene pool.

Nice lot aren't you

and given the shambolic way the RFL have done it i back them 100%.

so did cunningham and it was right in the circumstances, as was seniors.

JJB got stick on this very board a few years ago from Gotcha for the beard.

Just saying.

And still does. He looks ridiculous. Just saying like, but I am facial hairiest.

Is he French ?