Indeed.

The Salford and Castleford whipping boy rabble are getting 10 and 12 points start respectively on the handicap coupons this weekend.

Well, mostly they can only come in on match days can't they?

I bet 16/1 first try scorers come in reasonably often. Not sure how much I'd bet. Probably depend on the odds like.

I'd hazard a guess that the following were 16/1 at the start the tournament

Hull in 2005
Castleford in 85/86
Featherstone in 82/83

not to mention Sheffield, Leigh etc

Whilst it's not a common occurrence, it does happen and not just a one off as suggested

Whilst you're all scratching around for further isolated examples of shock results in the CC in order to fantasise about the potential for a difficult Semi Final for Leeds, I'll continue to maintain that Castleford (like Hull FC in the previous round) is a comfortable draw. Four easy CC draws in 2011 thus far against whipping boy rabble... Crusaders, Harlequins, Hull FC and now Castleford.

Rhinos fans who would only attend the CC Final if Leeds are there may as well book their Wembley tickets now in order to avoid queueing at Headingley.

Huddersfield in 06...

wasn't scratching around, just pointing out that this quote was incorrect.


I wouldn't expect 16/1 shots, by the nature of the odds to come in regularly but they do happen on an ongoing basis, even in RL.

Whether leeds win or not depends om whether they turn up IMO. It shouldn't be a problem but there have been some very poor performances this year.

Leeds 2011 are no Wigan 1998, in short.

Now now Mr Corn,I never said it happened all the time,I just said it happened,Which from time to time,it clearly does.

I see he hasn't wanted to reply too quickly to that has he?

Different set of circumstances in 2006 and the result was not a surprise.

That CC Semi Final result was sandwiched in-between a run of poor form which involved FIVE consecutive defeats under the coaching regime of Tony Smith. Those run of consecutive defeats also included losses to whipping boy rabble like Hull FC and Castleford!!!

Not even Brian McDermott has coached the club to FIVE consecutive defeats, nor has he coached the club to defeats against SL whipping boy rabble like Hull FC and Castleford.

Keep repeating it Corny old boy and you'll start to believe it.BTW,after this season,which will be your second without silverware,can you be classed as one of the up and coming SL whipping boy rabble,if so welcome to the club corny.

You realise, obviously, that this is the exact response he wanted? He'd go away if you stopped encouraging him.

Hiw Keith Swiftcorn persona isn't very keen on Leeds anyway, so I doubt your barbs will trouble him much.

Ironically the man behind this persona is very mush a Leeds fan.

a trip to wembley will probably mean a contract extension for mc do nowt !!

A Wembley win will probably secure him in the hot seat into next year.

extending contracts costs money
sacking people costs money

A seat Coach McDermott was already set to occupy and highly likely to retain in any case. In those circumstances I'll take a Challenge Cup final win in 2011.

Always nice to see a big Cup upset and the winner of the Leeds/Castleford semi-final will be in position to do just that.

Hate the Americanisation of saying 'Coach (insert surname)', used to work with a basketball coach who always referred to me as that, irritating. Just thought id mention that.

Hate the Americanisation of saying 'Coach (insert surname)', used to work with a basketball coach who always referred to me as that, irritating. Just thought id mention that.

Loved it ever since Coach Calhoun at Rydell High in '78.

Oh dear.

What?

Grease is the word ..... dude.

Mmmm.... no comment.

I do enjoy a Pink Lady

It's got groove it's got meaning!