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| Looking forward to this win or lose .I might even stay for the after match fairwells go JJB and Abbo
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Looking forward to this win or lose .I might even stay for the after match fairwells go JJB and Abbo'"
I think I will too are they doing something in the Southstand concourse?
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| Quote ="christopher"I think I will too are they doing something in the Southstand concourse?'"
Dont know I was just thinking it will be like the last game of the season when the p,Ayers do a lap .
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| Worth remembering it’s also Danny Mags’ final game before retirement tomorrow too. He’s had some cracking games still for HKR this year and will always be an absolute icon of the glory years.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Worth remembering it’s also Danny Mags’ final game before retirement tomorrow too. He’s had some cracking games still for HKR this year and will always be an absolute icon of the glory years.'"
McGuire is my favourite player from the SL era, really wished he had seen his final years out at the Rhinos rather than at Hull KR TBH
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| I'm not a Leeds fan by any stretch of the description but I have a huge admiration for JJB. His infectious enthusiasm, unquestioning loyalty to Leeds and his fellow players set an example to all. Also strikes me that if he was not a great player why did you keep him for 20 years!! As others have said, he will also have a huge amount to contribute to the future development of your club and players.
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| As others have said, the guy is Mr Leeds - should be kept involved with the young players in some capacity.
In many ways JJB epitomises what the good years were built on - honest graft and determination to succeed despite limitations.
Some of the young lads coming through have the take the responsibility now to set the tone for the next wave.
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| There must be many doors ready to open for JJB ,he's a natural for the media and it wouldn't surprise me to see him appear in a latef series of Peaky Blinders a Northern version. Of Alfie Solomons lol. I think the club will recognize what a natural talent he is and offer him a high profile fro t of house job
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"There must be many doors ready to open for JJB ,he's a natural for the media and it wouldn't surprise me to see him appear in a latef series of Peaky Blinders a Northern version. Of Alfie Solomons lol. I think the club will recognize what a natural talent he is and offer him a high profile fro t of house job'"
I'm sure he'll be offered some kind of role within the club, too much of a big personality and loyal person to just let go.
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| JJB is Mr Leeds, it's almost inconceivable that he doesn't stay in some capacity. He would be perfect for running the corporate side as front of office for example.
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| I think he’d be a brilliant mentor for the young lads coming through. If you want to instil a bit of what it means to be a Leeds Rhinos man, JJB is perfect.
Probably a hybrid role but I do think he needs some input with player development.
Imagine as a young lad you’ve got Chev Walker, Rob Burrow, JJB, JP and Sinfield knocking about. I know we can be guilty of a bit of a “jobs for the boys” thing but my word there’s some inspiration walking the corridors at HQ now.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Really? He was solid in the GF wins, but never a standout. McGuire and Burrow played major roles in wins. As did Sinfield. In terms of impact in one or more GFs he'd be behind the likes of JP, Leuluai, Lauti'iti, Diskin, Ablett, Webb, Lee Smith, Donald, Senior and Hardaker. He'd be in any 17 'best of' team to reflect the era, and his contribution shouldn't be overlooked, but lets not pretend he was as influential as some others.
Every successful team has players fans like and the rest of the squad value highly both on and off-field. Some are lucky and play in very successful teams, others just don't (I'm thinking Roy Powell here for some reason, but Dave Heron and many others would qualify).'" #
where would he be in the 17 back rows ahead of him furner, sinfield , ali , ellis , morley , glanville
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| We were talking golden generation so Morley and glanville don't qualify. Furner played one gf so JJB definitely ahead of him. Sinfield would be 6 in my team of the era. He also played a far bigger role than Ellis, so yes when talking golden generation JJB is a must.
In terms of total career he'd be ahead of everyone on your list with only Ali of forwards you've listed near him.
Other than that you're spot on.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"If JJB is a legend what are Sinfield and McGuire?'"
i always knew that jonesy was a legend
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| Jonesy is going to work for the foundation and so is Lee Smith joining g Brett Delaney. What do they all do ?
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| Quote ="Jonesy's a Legend"i always knew that jonesy was a legend
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Great club servant - who made a valuable contribution to the glory years - a legend not on the field - very similar to Nathan Massey for me a good solid performer who gave it 100% every time he took the field.
Legend should be reserved for players of exceptional ability whose quality sets them apart from their peer group e.g. Danny McGuire.
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| He was way better than Massey at his best
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Quote ="lionarmour87"Jonesy is going to work for the foundation and so is Lee Smith joining g Brett Delaney. What do they all do ?'"
Quite a lot and its a very successful venture, having Ex Players working for it is a great way to get people engaged with the foundation.
https://www.leedsrhinosfoundation.org
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Quite a lot and its a very successful venture, having Ex Players working for it is a great way to get people engaged with the foundation.
https://www.leedsrhinosfoundation.org
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"He was way better than Massey at his best'"
Agreed but then Sinfield and McGuire are on a different planet to the likes of Gale - so the comparison is about right.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Great club servant - who made a valuable contribution to the glory years - a legend not on the field - very similar to Nathan Massey for me a good solid performer who gave it 100% every time he took the field.
Legend should be reserved for players of exceptional ability whose quality sets them apart from their peer group e.g. Danny McGuire.'"
Some of that i agree but JJB was a 20 year club man who was a mainstay of that period. Larger than life character who will long be remembered and talked about in 20/30/40 years time so i would say he is a club legend. All time great on the other hand; no.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Some of that i agree but JJB was a 20 year club man who was a mainstay of that period. Larger than life character who will long be remembered and talked about in 20/30/40 years time so i would say he is a club legend. All time great on the other hand; no.'"
Will he be remembered as a lager than life character or as a really top player? Comparisons to the likes of Morley, Ellis & Ali do him no favours in quality terms. When it comes to effort and endeavour - unmatched.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Will he be remembered as a lager than life character or as a really top player? Comparisons to the likes of Morley, Ellis & Ali do him no favours in quality terms. When it comes to effort and endeavour - unmatched.'"
Both. He was a top player, international squad standard between 05-11 and he was consistently a 7/10 player. A level below the 3 you mentioned who were world class but i still think his longevity, success and complete devotion to the club merit the label of club legend but i appreciate it's opinions.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Both. He was a top player, international squad standard between 05-11 and he was consistently a 7/10 player. A level below the 3 you mentioned who were world class but i still think his longevity, success and complete devotion to the club merit the label of club legend but i appreciate it's opinions.'"
Fair assessment
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| For me, JJB came into his own in the 2007 season, and really stood out as an attacking player that year and for the next two years or so, to the point that he was outshining the likes of Lauitiiti in a lot of performances. After that IIRC he became more of a workhorse (and occasional penalty machine). 2007 was also the year when JJB grew the beard, and Jamie Thackray was famously axed because he wouldn't work on his poor ball-retention in training.
Another season that sticks out is 2006 - another underachieving year, despite Peacock signing. JJB was played at prop in some games by Tony Smith and didn't really make an impact.
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