I lost my temper a few times at us and Ganson

In the first half..a swinging arm leading to a high tackle on a Leeds player..No Penalty

Later in the game, same situation teams reversed, penatly given




Dont get me started on Webb getting taken out next to sticks

Forgot about that too. Shocking. Barely even a mention on Sky. Just an after-thought really.

Most of the calls against Leeds were justified. You are one of the niggliest sides at the play the ball and the biggest moaners, so you are your own worst enemies. Yes, Ganson is an officious attention seeker, but you know what you are going to get with him. Has this crept in more under McClellan?

I agree about the video ref decision though. I was saying no try. It clearly came off Peterson's hand.

Good win for you boys. You nicked it, we bombed it, them's the breaks.

I am not a violent man but Steve Ganson has a face that I would never get tired of punching.

He always comes across as arrogant and dismissive. The players do remarkably well to restrain themsleves when he talks to them as he does.

That was pathetic and he was taken out

Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Most of the calls against Leeds were justified. You are one of the niggliest sides at the play the ball and the biggest moaners, so you are your own worst enemies. Yes, Ganson is an officious attention seeker, but you know what you are going to get with him. Has this crept in more under McClellan? I agree about the video ref decision though. I was saying no try. It clearly came off Peterson's hand. Good win for you boys. You nicked it, we bombed it, them's the breaks.'" please read Admirals thread viewtopic.php?t=419040 TIA

Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Most of the calls against Leeds were justified. You are one of the niggliest sides at the play the ball and the biggest moaners, so you are your own worst enemies. Yes, Ganson is an officious attention seeker, but you know what you are going to get with him. Has this crept in more under McClellan? I agree about the video ref decision though. I was saying no try. It clearly came off Peterson's hand. Good win for you boys. You nicked it, we bombed it, them's the breaks.'" please read Admirals thread viewtopic.php?t=419040 TIA

I too felt that but have yet to watch the video.

Quote ="Lawrie L"please read Admirals thread viewtopic.php?t=419040 TIA'" I was disagreeing with the Ganson bit in a thread about Ganson. It's called debate. I think in the past the refs have been in awe of some of the bigger clubs, and maybe that it is disappearing now that refs like Ganson have realised that they are the stars. I do think Leeds are the worst at the play the ball, gamesmanship, whingeing. Now the refs realise it too.

Quote ="Lawrie L"please read Admirals thread viewtopic.php?t=419040 TIA'" I was disagreeing with the Ganson bit in a thread about Ganson. It's called debate. I think in the past the refs have been in awe of some of the bigger clubs, and maybe that it is disappearing now that refs like Ganson have realised that they are the stars. I do think Leeds are the worst at the play the ball, gamesmanship, whingeing. Now the refs realise it too.

Missed my point by miles, We are poor in discipline, however tonight the same calls were not given to either side

Refs, like players, have good games and bad games. Tonight Leeds played poor at times, gave away cheap ball and were undisciplined (don’t get me started on gobby fekkin Ablett) but we scraped a win and come seasons end it’s the two points that we’ll remember.
Saying that, Ganson also had a dire game, along with touchies and the video ref – it happens. But we really need to address our discipline, it was the single contributing factor to our near loss tonight.

What about the wakey conversion that wasn't? as those right behind the sticks will confirm.

I was right in line with the kick – I cheered when it missed (as you do) and was then rendered speechless when the touchies waved their little flags.

Im so glad it wasnt just me that noticed that !!

RFL? WWF more like!

I didn't see the game, but by the sounds of things too many players are having a natter at Ganson. Sinfield can, as he is captain, but the number of times I heard that Webb, Diskin, Ablett etc. were giving their two-penneth worth is unnerving. Bluey has to get the message out to get on with the game, although the interview afterwards doesn't fill me with confidence. We are becoming moaners and have been for a while.

your the chelsea of rugby always round the ref, espicallly sinfield even though he is captain

And Wakey are the Ronaldo's/Gerrard's of Rugby League - throwing themselves to the deck at every opportunity trying to get decisions in their favour.

Lawrence, don't take this the wrong way, but I'm more inclined to trust someone's judgement who is out there on the field and QUALIFIED to do a job than someone who is 100metres away from the action and can barely see over the three year old infront of him!

Just watched the video and the calls certainly were not even handed. Ganson was definitely harsher on Leeds. One point in particualr stands out. Ablett pinged for blocking while Peterson flattens Webb and it's let go. another incident where Ganson calls "FOUR" then instantly blows for a penalty for laying on.

Sinfield and McClennan do right to be miffed.

The kick went over though.

The players have a right to ask for clarification of a decision (and in Steve Ganson's case, asking for clarification should be mandatory). After all, they can't learn if they don't understand why what they are / aren't doing is wrong.

The difference of course is where talking to the referee becomes "abusing" the referee.

One of those describes Steve Ganson, I'm having difficulty pinning it down though..

I had the luxury of watching the game this morning after seeing the score and reading comments on here too.

Personally didn't think we were that harshly treated. Most of the pens were stupid and should be cut out. There were a couple of cases where similar infringements were not punished but I wouldn't say there was a massive gap.

The back chat has to stop. Ablett is the worst offender

Or "chuckling" to yourself in the case of Ablett.

I would have no problem with that, actually we only conceded 6 penalties (non initially for backchat) in the first 70 minutes of the game - pretty good - especially when you consider Drew threw himself on the floor - that would really only be 5. Most problems we had were handling mistakes and poor kick defence. But Wakefield only conceding one penalty in the same time beggers belief.

Smith and Jones-Buchanan going at it near the end was fun. JJB was borderline about to lose it there.