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| Quote ="batleyrhino"
It seems that GH is either unwilling or unable to prise the players that would improve our chances from their current clubs.
'" Why do you say that? Which players in particular?
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| Quote ="G1"Why do you say that? Which players in particular?'"
Sam Burgess would be an improvement. At present, GH seems either unwilling (won't instigate a move) or unable (can't agree a deal) to get Sam to come to Leeds. I'm sure there would be others but that's the first name that comes to mind.
I would not be looking overseas...
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| i think we are a prop light.second row we could get away with but scrutes has not been replaced. a couple of front row injuries and we are really struggling
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| unless we're paying a fee I feel we've missed the boat in bringing in any SL players.
The rookie NRL youngsters usually establish themselves by mid season in which case may allow for early releases of some players.
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| We don't know that GH isn't looking and negotiating with some players currently in SL, howveer it is unlikely.
On the subject of Hull signing a couple of kolpaks, I think both were signed before Eastwoods visa was denied. even so, I would rather stick with what we have got, rather than sign someone mediocre.
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| Those of you craving more signings need a reality check.
We're in the midst of a recession. ITV are suffering because of a downturn in sorporate support. Do you not think it may be affecting us (and other clubs)?
Combine this with the fact that the club is going to HAVE TO find funds for a new Southstand in immediate future.
So, the directors, who have to consider issues you fantasy football managers don't, might just be right to say "Well, we invest a lot in our youth set up so I am afraid at the moment its' there you will have to look for your players".
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| ....and I would have absolutely no problem with that if the club actually came out and said that was the case.
I agree that the current economic climate will be exerting pressure on the finances of all the clubs, which effectively means that as a buyer you would get more for your money. With this in mind it creates an even stronger reason for signing a Burgess etc.
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"On the subject of Hull signing a couple of kolpaks, I think both were signed before Eastwoods visa was denied. even so, I would rather stick with what we have got, rather than sign someone mediocre.'"
I think both were signed very close to Eastwood's Visa being turned down as that was only a matter of days after Crocker fell fowl of the authorities.
Hull went out and made the signings happen, so it shows it can be done if there is a need and a will to do it.
Sam Moa's Visa was through within a month and he has already played three times for Hull. Epalahame Lauaki sought a release from Auckland (and at the time Eastwood was expected to replace him there, although that never came to pass.)
Lauaki had an outstanding World Cup IMO and if he gets here will be a big hit on Humberside.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"....and I would have absolutely no problem with that if the club actually came out and said that was the case.
'" Under what possible scenario would the club need to do that?
Maybe the club don't feel the need to make a public statement about
1. The lack of depth in the squad. [iBecause there isn't a lack of depth. Because they think the squad is in the best shape it can be.[/i
2. The fact that the recession might be affecting their corporate income. [iBecause it should be patently obvious. Do we really need a press conference from Mr Caddick to tell us the business world is tightening its' belt?[/i
3. The dire need to re-develop the Southstand. [iActually, they have gone public about this. But if you missed it, next time we're on telly, have a peek at the bottom of the Southstand and see what jumps out at you.[/i
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| Quote ="tvoc"
Remind me who runs the Hull club?
'" Remind me what we're doing wrong that the Hull club aren't again?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Lauaki had an outstanding World Cup IMO and if he gets here will be a big hit on Humberside.'"
Unlike Sam Moa who looks like a big sh*t on Humberside.
He looks like a poor man's Leuluai or Pa'aleasina.
If we have to be interested in another SL player, how about Tony Clubb?
Looks like he can play centre or second row. He impresses me as a player who could really develop playing in a better team than Harlequins. Although I thought they played very well to their strengths tonight with a game plan that they executed fully. Chad Randall - very underated in my view - was well worth his MOM.
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| Quote ="G1"Remind me what we're doing wrong that the Hull club aren't again?'"
When was the last time Hull beat Harlequins away in the SL Regular Rounds?
Three wins from fourteen wouldn't have filled me with much expectation to be perfectly honest.
I tend to measure Leeds against the best they can be. I'd like to see Leeds use whatever they have at their disposal to defend their titles this season. I don't even mind seeing them fail if I think they are giving us 100% of what they've got.
If they thought they needed to sign Greg Eastwood (and they appeared to think so when they signed him) what has changed since then to make a replacement not as necessary?
Quote ="Old Feller" Although I thought they played very well to their strengths tonight with a game plan that they executed fully. Chad Randall - very underated in my view - was well worth his MOM.'"
London born players should not be coveted by north of England teams, IMO and any that sign them do the sport a dis-service.
Clubb would make an excellent acquisition but one that I'd hate Leeds to make.
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| Quote ="G1"Under what possible scenario would the club need to do that?
Maybe the club don't feel the need to make a public statement about
1. The lack of depth in the squad. [iBecause there isn't a lack of depth. Because they think the squad is in the best shape it can be.[/i They think the squad is better without Greg Eastwood or a replacement for him than if he were here? Really?
2. The fact that the recession might be affecting their corporate income. [iBecause it should be patently obvious. Do we really need a press conference from Mr Caddick to tell us the business world is tightening its' belt?[/i The simple fact that it is affecting corporate income makes it easier to sign a high quality replacement, like Burgess. Other clubs with lower revenues than Leeds and greater spend on SC (Hood has publically stated that the Bulls are spending to the cap) will be finding life harder than we are.
3. The dire need to re-develop the Southstand. [iActually, they have gone public about this. But if you missed it, next time we're on telly, have a peek at the bottom of the Southstand and see what jumps out at you.[/iI don't disagree with you on this point.'"
Ultimately those businesses that communicate with their customers (actual and potential) with the most honesty and clarity, are the ones that have the most stable relationship with them.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Ultimately those businesses that communicate with their customers (actual and potential) with the most honesty and clarity, are the ones that have the most stable relationship with them.'"
As our old sales Director used to say, "Honesty is never the best policy".
Admitedly he lied about who was sharing his company paid for condo and simply disappeared one day after being fired and threatened with jail if he opened his mouth, but as a general principle it still holds up IMO.
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| Quote ="G1"Those of you craving more signings need a reality check.
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Technically that would also include our coach and GH, as we actually did sign Eastwood.
I don't know how much cash it costs to build a stand the size of the South Stand, but it has to make a players contract look like something you might find down the back of a sofa.
I have to agree with our human computer here.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"As our old sales Director used to say, "Honesty is never the best policy".
Admitedly he lied about who was sharing his company paid for condo and simply disappeared one day after being fired and threatened with jail if he opened his mouth, but as a general principle it still holds up IMO.'"
I guess that working for a company that is listed on Wall Street and therefore bound by Sarbanes Oxley regulations, I'm just too honest.
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"I guess that working for a company that is listed on Wall Street and therefore bound by Sarbanes Oxley regulations, I'm just too honest.
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We were being audited for Sarbanes Oxley at the time or nothing would have been done, thankfully the company I work for now is privately owned.
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| Quote ="tvoc"
London born players should not be coveted by north of England teams, IMO and any that sign them do the sport a dis-service.
Clubb would make an excellent acquisition but one that I'd hate Leeds to make.'"
I'm with tvoc on that, and I think you could add McCarthy-Scarsbrook to that list too.
As for signing someone of the quality of Sam Moa - on last nights performance we don't need to be doing that.
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| Quote ="Essex Rhino"As for signing someone of the quality of Sam Moa - on last nights performance we don't need to be doing that.'"
I must admit I was shocked. I think he's ate Greg Eastwood.... trying to get him in through the back door.
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| Quote ="Essex Rhino"
As for signing someone of the quality of Sam Moa - on last nights performance we don't need to be doing that.'"
We should be looking more for a Fi Ji, a Ton Ga, or even better an Oz Tralia.
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| Quote ="LeedsPokerGuru"unless we're paying a fee I feel we've missed the boat in bringing in any SL players.
The rookie NRL youngsters usually establish themselves by mid season in which case may allow for early releases of some players.'"
I heard an interesting whisper over this weekend about a potential replacement for Eastwood ...
- Top class forward
- 'Available' (potentially)
- A Kolpak 'stiff'
- The available cap space in order to bring him in
- Dying to end his kick & clap hell at Toulon
Step forward SONNY BILL WILLIAMS ....
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"We should be looking more for a Fi Ji, a Ton Ga, or even better an Oz Tralia.'"
That was pretty awful!! It's Sunday though so I'll let it slide.
And about Sonny Bill. How much would he be after? A very lot is probably the answer!
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| Quote ="batleyrhino"Ultimately those businesses that communicate with their customers (actual and potential) with the most honesty and clarity, are the ones that have the most stable relationship with them.'" Letting your customers know you're hitting a rough patch is a great idea.
No, really.
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| Quote ="Steve-O"That was pretty awful!! It's Sunday though so I'll let it slide.
And about Sonny Bill. How much would he be after? A very lot is probably the answer!'"
Depends what it is worth to get away from Toulon ...
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"Depends what it is worth to get away from Toulon ...'"
I have a feeling he wouldn't fit in anyway. Good player but I seem to remember him missing a lot of rugby when he was in Aus. But I suppose he would go OK in a lesser comp like SL.
No thanks for me
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