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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"The move to Saints was the best move for all partys, Koni's a luxury player, can be rocks or diamonds, Saints are a well oiled machine who can accomodate a player like him much better than we can at the minute. Right decision to let him go, glad he's started well, seems a great lad.'"
Do you honestly think Briscoe/Sutty are anywhere near good enough? Even at SL level. Austin won’t be cheap. Just think squad would have been a lot better if we’d retained Koni and Gale. We didn’t really need Bentley either…..
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| Quote ="Shabino"Do you honestly think Briscoe/Sutty are anywhere near good enough? Even at SL level. Austin won’t be cheap. Just think squad would have been a lot better if we’d retained Koni and Gale. We didn’t really need Bentley either…..'"
Briscoe and Sutty are decent SL players, they're also not our first choice Centre pairing are they.
We offered Koni more money than Saints, what more could we have done, he wasn't worth anywhere near Marquee money.
Personally I'd argue our team is better with Austin and Sezer in the half rather than Sezer/Gale. We'll have to wait and see, Gale was also out injured for a lot of his Leeds career.
He played 22 games in 2 years in fact
Anyway if we had kept them you'd probably be moaning about them now, it seems to be what you do.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Do you honestly think Briscoe/Sutty are anywhere near good enough? Even at SL level. Austin won’t be cheap. Just think squad would have been a lot better if we’d retained Koni and Gale. We didn’t really need Bentley either…..'"
Hang on. Isn't it you who thinks Sutty is a top class Stand Off?
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| Quote ="Shabino"Do you honestly think Briscoe/Sutty are anywhere near good enough? Even at SL level. Austin won’t be cheap. Just think squad would have been a lot better if we’d retained Koni and Gale. We didn’t really need Bentley either…..'"
I think they are solid SL players, not top class and id hope Broadbent would be overtaking them both at some point. I honestly dont think you are giving enough consideration to the cap, we'v brought in Sezer, Austin and Fusitua, id rather have any of them 3 over Hurrell, we cant keep everbody.
On top of that, Hurrell wasnt great either, for all the fantastic highlight runs there were all the errors and defensive misreads. Like iv already said, he's a better fit for where Saints are than where we are currently imo.
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| Quote ="ArthurClues"Hang on. Isn't it you who thinks Sutty is a top class Stand Off?'"
I don’t mind Sutty as back up stand off, not at all and think he has great skills. I don’t mind Briscoe as winger/ back up winger. I think both should be nowhere near first choice centre however…..
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"I think they are solid SL players, not top class and id hope Broadbent would be overtaking them both at some point. I honestly dont think you are giving enough consideration to the cap, we'v brought in Sezer, Austin and Fusitua, id rather have any of them 3 over Hurrell, we cant keep everbody.
On top of that, Hurrell wasnt great either, for all the fantastic highlight runs there were all the errors and defensive misreads. Like iv already said, he's a better fit for where Saints are than where we are currently imo.'"
Yup fair points. Do you not think Broadbent should be getting in at LC now though, and not trying to shoehorn other players in there? I’m not sure the management rate him as highly as we do…..
Class players start getting picked aged 17-18 onwards. Look at Chev Walker, Watkins, even Jack Walker….
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| Quote ="Shabino"I don’t mind Sutty as back up stand off, not at all and think he has great skills. I don’t mind Briscoe as winger/ back up winger. I think both should be nowhere near first choice centre however…..'"
Suttcliffes rubbish at standoff, the weakness he has to his game at Centre is magnified and even more detrimental at 6.
He's a decent defender and a decent runner with a bit of size. Not great, but solid at centre
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| Quote ="Shabino"Yup fair points. Do you not think Broadbent should be getting in at LC now though, and not trying to shoehorn other players in there? I’m not sure the management rate him as highly as we do…..
Class players start getting picked aged 17-18 onwards. Look at Chev Walker, Watkins, even Jack Walker….'"
There’s not many players that start being picked regularly at that age, especially in the modern game.
You mention Jack Walker, maybe his injury problems stem ftom the fact he was thrown in too early.
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| Quote ="christopher"There’s not many players that start being picked regularly at that age, especially in the modern game.
You mention Jack Walker, maybe his injury problems stem ftom the fact he was thrown in too early.'"
Don’t think so, just been really unlucky. That foot injury looked absolutely nothing at the time, and freakish to keep him out of the game for 2 years….
I think left centre is one of the most important positions in the team. We’ve had our best players in that position over the years and scored Most of our tries through that avenue (Senior, Moon).
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| Quote ="Shabino"Yup fair points. Do you not think Broadbent should be getting in at LC now though, and not trying to shoehorn other players in there? I’m not sure the management rate him as highly as we do…..
Class players start getting picked aged 17-18 onwards. Look at Chev Walker, Watkins, even Jack Walker….'"
Id be playing Broadbent now, its one of the small issues i have that when Broadbent and Briscoe are in the same lineup, Agar favours Briscoe at Centre and Broadbent on the wing, i dont understand it at all, there games are much better suited the other way round. But regardless of that, having a star Centre in Newman, 2 solid options in Suttcliffe and Briscoe and a very good youngster in Broadbent is plenty of cap invested in the position, and more than enough reason that letting Hurrell go was the correct decision with the money and quota places spent on better players at positions of more need.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Don’t think so, just been really unlucky. That foot injury looked absolutely nothing at the time, and freakish to keep him out of the game for 2 years….
I think left centre is one of the most important positions in the team. We’ve had our best players in that position over the years and scored Most of our tries through that avenue (Senior, Moon).'"
We won the 2017 grand final and played our best rugby in the later part of that year and playoffs with Liam Suttcliffe playing left centre
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| Quote ="Shabino"Don’t think so, just been really unlucky. That foot injury looked absolutely nothing at the time, and freakish to keep him out of the game for 2 years….
I think left centre is one of the most important positions in the team. We’ve had our best players in that position over the years and scored Most of our tries through that avenue (Senior, Moon).'"
Broadbent played 13 games last year and scored 9 tries. This despite a nasty injury. He'll get another shot in due course, quite possibly this week.
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| Quote ="Shabino"Do you honestly think Briscoe/Sutty are anywhere near good enough? Even at SL level. Austin won’t be cheap. Just think squad would have been a lot better if we’d retained Koni and Gale. We didn’t really need Bentley either…..'"
Said many times before, Koni was the best decision all round. He'll do ok at Saints, but we were right to let him go.
Briscoe and Sutty are not the best pairing in the league, but they're not our first choice Centres.
Won't be long before it's Broadbent and Newman, the other 2 are decent back ups.
As for Gale, his 2 years were very underwhelming and he became a problem in the end.
Absolutely right decision to let him go.
Sezer and Austin will go great together.
And no problem with Leeming and Myler as back ups, now Johnson and Walker are back in the mix.
Part of me agrees re Bentley.
I was really pleased when he signed, but Saturday has deflated that.
Early days, but he could be a liability.
And we have plenty of options in back row.
Gannon is class and deserves his place in the 17.
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| Quote ="Simmo71"Said many times before, Koni was the best decision all round. He'll do ok at Saints, but we were right to let him go.
Briscoe and Sutty are not the best pairing in the league, but they're not our first choice Centres.
Won't be long before it's Broadbent and Newman, the other 2 are decent back ups.
As for Gale, his 2 years were very underwhelming and he became a problem in the end.
Absolutely right decision to let him go.
Sezer and Austin will go great together.
And no problem with Leeming and Myler as back ups, now Johnson and Walker are back in the mix.
Part of me agrees re Bentley.
I was really pleased when he signed, but Saturday has deflated that.
Early days, but he could be a liability.
And we have plenty of options in back row.
Gannon is class and deserves his place in the 17.'"
One of Sutty or Briscoe will always be first choice. Broadbent not picked again tonight. There’s an issue there…..
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| Still thin we’re looking ok at centre Simmo?
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| Quote ="Shabino"Still thin we’re looking ok at centre Simmo?'"
Maybe you’ll delete a few posts if Hurrell has a shocker today?
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| Quote ="Shabino"Still thin we’re looking ok at centre Simmo?'"
No mate - we look terrible.
Newman and Broadbent should be our first choice pairing.
Bring back Hurrell - he would have caught Field......
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| Quote ="christopher"Maybe you’ll delete a few posts if Hurrell has a shocker today?
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He won’t have a shocker as he’s got quality around him. Do you not think bar Newman we have the slowest centres in SL?
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| Quote ="Simmo71"No mate - we look terrible.
Newman and Broadbent should be our first choice pairing.
Bring back Hurrell - he would have caught Field......
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Hurrell would have made zero difference last night, especially as it was our defence that was terrible.
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| Quote ="Shabino"He won’t have a shocker as he’s got quality around him. Do you not think bar Newman we have the slowest centres in SL?'"
Not sure, give is a list of all the other teams centres.
do you think Hurrell is quick?
Look to be honest Id give Broadbent the other centre spot if i was Agar and we need Newman back I won’t disagree with you on that.
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| Quote ="christopher"Hurrell would have made zero difference last night, especially as it was our defence that was terrible.'"
Not even about Hurrell now, Surely we need some more quality at LC to partner Newman? Will be next season now though…..
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| Quote ="Shabino"Not even about Hurrell now, Surely we need some more quality at LC to partner Newman? Will be next season now though…..'"
You asked if we had the slowest centres in SL, Hurrell plays in SL and is slower than all our centres.
Briscoe isn’t actually slow, he is however not a centre, and I wouldn’t be playing him there as I say Id be playing Broadbent.
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| Quote ="christopher"You asked if we had the slowest centres in SL, Hurrell plays in SL and is slower than all our centres.
Briscoe isn’t actually slow, he is however not a centre, and I wouldn’t be playing him there as I say Id be playing Broadbent.'"
Maybe I shouldn’t have said slow. Dynamic, attacking threat , power, slip pass would all have been better terms. Hurrell not quick no, but powerful ++.
Briscoe fine on the wing, Surtty good back up anywhere!
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| Quote ="Shabino"Maybe I shouldn’t have said slow. Dynamic, attacking threat , power, slip pass would all have been better terms. Hurrell not quick no, but powerful ++.
Briscoe fine on the wing, Surtty good back up anywhere!'"
You do flip flop around thats for sure.
Im actually agreeing with you our first choice centres should be Broadbent and Newman.
Hurrell has gone, i wanted him to stay, we offered him s deal he turned it down for less money, what can we do?
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| None of this years team can march and pretend to play a bugle the way Koni could.
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