What has that got to do with him hiding in the centres? I'm talking about him taking the ball up, which he probably managed about 4 times in that game and probably once or twice after his tackle on MF (one of which he decided to nancy cross field and get slapped backwards

)

Anyway, looking forward to seeing how many times he carries the ball on Saturday.

That's quite a simple answer even now. It will be as many times as is needed.

More to the point, why not look out for how many times the Saints players run at him, rather than how many times he runs at them?

I certainly will. Then again, it's very easy to act tough in defence when you shy away from fronting up with the ball in your hands. The sort of "I'll whack you, you won't get the chance to whack me because I won't run the ball in" approach I used to find so amusing when I played.

you really need to stop acting like a child on this. Its all a bit daft this crap your spouting.

But seriously, who gives a 5h1t?

Regardless of what some Leeds fans think, Bailey is very average with ball in hand. We accept that.

Bailey's job is to defend. And if he is doing that, then I don't care what your interpretation of that is. Play to your strengths is what I say.

I'm looking forward to seeing James Graham with steam coming out of his ears and losing the plot completely again.

I agree entirely - my interest in Bailey is the tough man reputation given to him by Leeds fans (TMFMISL etc) which is what my posts concern, when most of the evidence supports the contrary.

I wouldn't question his effectiveness in defence, he does a good job there.

Don't add logic into the mix.

Tis a shame Gilmour has left, him and Lee Smith trying to get digs into each other every tackle used to be quite entertaining



Should be a humdinger, although it could well be the same old story of us not having enough in the backs to get over the line.

Looking forward to it. I think the pressure is on us more than it is Saints to be honest.

Thing is, this is the part you are not getting.

The reputation is more fuelled by oppostion fans and players (like Graham's) OTT reaction to him!!!!!

Yes I (and others) will glorify him of course I'll hold my hands up to that. But the morons who claim rubbish about him will get told that!!

How can someone so average get under the skin of so many?

The Most Feared Man In Super League tag was created by me and used and adored by the masses. Thanks.

Your spot on there.





What have I just said?

I don't pick and choose the topics, its a free house as long as it stays within the AUP and I don't dislike the person posting the thread too much then anyone can write anything they like.

I think you've been spending too much time on the Saints forum

You've got to hand it to Bailey.
He's managed to keep his place in the squad for years, including winning 4 Championship rings.

That takes some doing when you offer nothing!!

I really don’t know what everyone sees in Bailey, I know that three consecutive Rhinos coaches rate him, I know he has represented his country at its highest level, I know he has 4 Grand Final winner’s rings and I know that, if fit, his name is always on the team sheet but what do these people know?

They obviously don’t know as much as those oracles of all things Rugby on the Red Vee



The thing I really like about Ryan is his ability to get under the skin of both opposition supporters and players without actually doing that much. That in itself is a talent.

Fantastic post

Not criticising the moderation process or anything but how many threads get locked on the Hull board a day! If they had as many locked cars/houses as locked threads then I guess the crime in the area would plummet.

Bailey has been a mainstay of the Leeds squad during one of the most successful periods. He does his job quietly, has a very good disciplinary record for one so hated and is an important part of the Leeds unit. He may not make lots of yards with the ball but he wins penalties with his niggling (nothing wrong with niggling by the way). Sometimes he gives silly penalties away but who doesn't.

That's what he does.

Your original post was.



The only forum recently in warrington was the one involving, Tony Smith, Paul Wood, Lee Briers, Paul Wellens and John Wilkin.

For a start that's only two teams, one of which has deep down instilled jelousy of Leeds and its players.

But more importantly, you expect us to believe that the Man who coached Bailey, continually picked Bailey, and had him in is GF winning team on 2 occassions, talked negatively about him?

darryl powell
tony smith
bluey.

one an international player, and a very good coach
two coaches with two Gf winners rings each

all have forgotton more than anybody on here knows about RL.

all picked bailey every week when he was available

says it all really

I don't think he is the best player in the world, but in a sallary capped sport he is what all clubs need. He IMO never really lived up to the hype and his early form when he got his gb call up, however I ain't slagging him off. Does his job, and is a good team addition most teams would want him. Not a superstar but won't let u down.

For future Bailey threads can we just put that as a reply and lock the threads. Says all that has to be said.

I don't go in for all of this "criticising the moderation process" claptrap, every RLFans forum is moderated by a range of individuals who all agree between themselves how things should be done - both Hull forums have specific issues with each other and they have to have much tighter controls or both sites would descend very quickly into chaos.

Here, its done by me, sometimes randomly, feel free to criticise, I don't care any more

Personally I think Bailey is a decent player in a very good side. He'd get into the squad at any other SL club.

He's probably picked as the 'pantomime' villain due to the lack of anyone else being appropriate for the role.

The person most wound up in that incident was Russell Smith, who must have walked down the tunnel with his red card in his hand.