Just been having a quick look on their board, and some of the window lickers are predicting a pies/Hudds Final!



Windowlene.....[i"helping the bewildered make it through the day!"[/i

There is only one valid interpretation of a statement proclaiming injuries being [i"part and parcel of the season and other clubs will go through this too HOPEFULLY"[/i just like there's only one interpretation of a statement proclaiming that a Wigan player intentionally caused an injury to McGuire in back play.



I give the Wigan players credit for being disgusted at McClennan's crass insinuation that one of them intentionally caused McGuire's injury in back play.

Has McClennan apologised for that fabrication yet?



But not disappointed in their own coach's comments on wishing injuries to players of other teams hopefully, or accusing a player of another club of intentionally causing an injury.

Hardly 'Gods of Rugby' are they?

More like the opinions of 'Big Daft Lads'

indeed there is. you could quote to the context to make a little easier, but your cherry picked sentence is also fine, it also makes clear than Mclennan wishes no injury on anyone but understands they are part and parcel of the season. Thank you for proving my point for me.

if you find a statement which says that id be interested to read that

Thats nice, an odd thing to say considering thats not what we were talking about. We were talking about the Wigan players reaction to Mcguire not Mclennan. But nice for you all the same
can you find a statement where he says they caused Mcguires injury? if not you really need to apologise, you wouldnt want to look like a huge hypocrit would you?



they may, had these things ever happened, they havent so we dont yet know do we?

they are as much 'gods of rugby' as me, you, postman pat, fireman sam, Darren Lockyer, Wally Lewis, PC Reg Hollis or anyone else really considering it was made up by a bitter Wigan fan to help him justify his unprofessional Schadenfreude.

And as they were made up, im making up its Burgess and Diskin and they fly the world in magical ford escort listen to an audio book of Jeeves and Wooster read by Stephen Fry doling out karmic justice to rugby league players

You've got to be kidding, sunshine.

Wigan finished top, wigan were favourites, wigan have fallen at this hurdle 3 years running, wigan haven't won a title in 12 years.

Going to be a good one I hope.

Wigan are the better side, but Leeds are proven champions with that ability to raise their game when it counts.

Can't wait.

I can't believe this 'no all the pressure is on', 'no its not its on you'.
I think if at this stage if you don't feel a modicum of pressure then you aren't human. Its how you deal with the pressure, Leeds in the past have shown they can handle it, while Wigan have yet to do so. Thise season is their best chance in many a year.

This will be a very difficult game - with our two best players against the most consistent side in the competition at full strength.

I would be amazed if we get through, but this team constantly amazes you - fingers crossed

Which part of McClennan's statement - [i"It's just the way it goes and we're not going to use injuries as an excuse for our position in the table. It's part and parcel of the season and other clubs will go through this too hopefully"[/i also says he wishes no injury on anyone?



[url=http://www.bettingpress.com/category/Rugby/Leeds-Rhinos-stand-off-Danny-McGuire-to-miss-rest-of-play-offs-Leeds-Rhinos-stand-off-Danny-McGuire-to-miss-rest-of-Super-League-play-offs-201009130017/"McClennan said: “Danny has done knee ligament damage to his knee after he we was fouled off the ball. We will just have to wait and find out how bad it really is.”[/url

[url=http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/rugby-league/Rhinos-wait-on-McGuire-news.6527834.jp"We need to find out what happened. He's been felled off the ball and we're unsure what's happened there. The camera didn't stay on him long enough."[/url



I was talking about Wigan's players possible reaction to McClennan's crass statement that a Wigan player was responsible for McGuire's injury off the ball in back play, and you responded to that.

Please try and keep up





They both happened alrighty. McClennan was out of order and has yet to apologise for making either of those disgustingly crass and insensitive statements.

all of it. Its words, its context, everything.

nope, no mention of intent or injury there. A simple statement of fact really and a request for investigation.
no, this is the quote you responded to
its written above and everything. Please try and keep up



you mean the quotes you cant provide?

Why do you take McClennans words favourably yet Clarke's unfavourably other than bias or plain old hypocrisy?

Or the quote you delibetately omitted in your response?

"McClennan said: [i“Danny has done knee ligament damage to his knee after he we was fouled off the ball. We will just have to wait and find out how bad it really is.”[/i

Was McGuire fouled off the ball? NO

Has McClennan apologised for his fabrication above? NO

What Clarke said is all words. All of it. It's context. Everything.

its not taking anything 'favourably' if there was a way of phrasing what Clarke said which i wouldnt find offensive i would be happy to accept it could simple be poorly worded, like Mclennans. But there is no way of phrasing what Clarke has said which i would find palatable.

nope, no mention of intent again. Are you ready to apologise for your fabrication
im not offended by someone mistaking Mcguires collision with Carmont as a foul by Carmont. Its a little bit of nothing really

you have even managed to get this wrong



are we at the part where you and Era of the biff confess to simply trolling yet, or do i get to play with you some more?

Clarke is supposed to independent - McClennan is not - simple really?

You cannot expect the impartiality from McClennan you should demand of Clarke?

Without McGuire Leeds have to play a different game based around the kicking of Sinfield and Burrow as we have to make up for the loss of Danny's usual 1 or 2 tries. So I think Sinny will move to 6 to control the game as field position will be vital and we need our kickers to have some space so they have time to kick into space.

Senior looked good in the pack at Hull with a high tackle count and added pace to the pack so this will allow Smith into centre as we will need a 3rd kicker. I hope JJB is fit as we will need his energy.

So for me Webb, Hall, Delaney, Smith, Donald, Sinfield, Burrow, Ambler/Bailey, Buderus, Kylie, Senior, JJB, Clarkson. With a bench of Eastwood, Ali, Ablett, Diskin

If we can play in their half we can win so must watch our discipline and not give easy yards away. We should borrow Huddersfield's tactics against Warrington. They were fast up in the Wires faces with an "attacking defence" in the first half and it blew them away just as they did to us at Wembley.

Why is Clarke supposed to be independent?

Is that part of his contractual terms with his employer Sky?

You seen to know a lot about rugby related contractual agreements as you are constantly commenting on players salaries, maybe you could tell us?

I would have thought so - if you want to sell TV programmes I would suggest it would be a good idea not to upset potential subscribers through bias towards one particular side?

To applaud an injury to one of the game's star players which help to attract new viewers which keeps the presenters in job is hardly conducive to attract new viewers?

I would have thought it was obvious why the presenters need to be impartial - obviously to anyone with a hint of common sense?

i think moving Sinny to 6 will give Burrow a lot more freedom to cause damage in attack. With McGuire his game is far more restricted and we don't see his best. Lets hope he can conjure up some runs like last week and make the loss of McGuire a lot less harmful to our attack.

Remind me how State of Origin is marketed down under. Are the studio analysts and commentators there completely unbiased and impartial in their opinions on both teams and who they want to win?

How often is Stevo controversial with his opinions?

Grow up.

SOO is not SL it is tribal contest between two sides who both have equal representation on the TV. If nine had Warren or Gould behave in the way Clarke does they would soon get very short shrift from nine.

There is a difference between being controversial and commenting on a particular incident and bias towards one particular side in a contest.

I appreciate the logic is beyond your comprehension but then I have assumed from your comments you are still at school?

So McClennan is allowed to wish that other clubs get the same injuries Leeds have?

Ok then

Really? Is that why Nine employee Andrew Johns referred to Greg Inglis in derogatory racist terms prior to an Origin game this season and yet he's still employed by them?

Grow up.