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| Great draw. Finally non SL opposition so we can rest a few.
Also dont feed the troll.
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| Quote ="William Eve"No they haven't. They've whinged, whined and moaned after every CC draw about how long it's been since Leeds drew non-SL opposition, how unlucky Leeds are and how unfair it all is.
I might have had some sympathy for that viewpoint had it not been for the staggering 18 out of 26 home draws stat. Claiming CC draws against whipping boy SL rabble (majority drawn at home) as bad luck or injustice on a monumental scale is truly moronic.'"
Are you feeling lonely? You have managed to start a debate here of sorts. Not your most elegant effort, but I suppose they all count.
I have heard some vague mutterings on the subject, but (and I acknowledge that I don't read every thread on here) by far the greatest fuss I have ever seen made on the subject of Leeds' luck in Cup draws is being made by you, on this thread.
In a spirit of participation: Personally I don't worry too much about the effects of "luck" in random processes - you get a random outcome each time. Random chance is no great observer of "justice" or "fairness". I might be moderatley interested in a serious attempt to determine whether Leeds were more or less lucky than would be predicted by a purely random draw (in terms of the team they face) - taking into account the number of lower league sides in each draw etc. But not that interested. The Cup is usually won by a team that beats what's put in front of it 5 times in a row. That Leeds haven't managed that in 14 years is a bigger disappointment than whatever the draw has thrown up.
You could argue that it isn't a random process, due to conspiracy theory and all that. But my tinfoil hat is in the wash.
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| Quote ="Alan"They are now!
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Is there a mechanism by which we can swap you for William Eve?
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| Quote ="William Eve"No they haven't.'"
Yes they have, that's why people have mentioned "only one non SL club in the last 13,14,15, etc. ties. Only you've gone as far back as you have. And nobody said Leeds have consistently had that run, just that is what it was at this present period. I'm sure you could go back in any clubs period and find a good few years of cup draws and a bad few years.
Quote ="William Eve"They've whinged, whined and moaned after every CC draw about how long it's been since Leeds drew non-SL opposition, how unlucky Leeds are and how unfair it all is.'"
No they haven't. Your view of whinge, whine and moaning (and also claims that we apparently SERIOUSLY called it bent and a fix) stems from people writing.....
"Oh look, another SL side for us"
"Oh I see Wigan have another easy tie"
Hardly the outrage you want to make it out to be.
A bit of light hearted mocking about the ease of Wigan's run in 2013 and the start of this one, all part of fan banter. But feel free to make out people were foaming at the mouth with rage and anger, it's just the usual rubbish you've made up.
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| Quote ="salfordlad"You are one sarcastic bugger aren't you ?
Re points 3 and 4 you are so smart it is difficult to understand what you mean for anyone with the average intellect. Is it possible to expand on what exactly you do mean without using hyperbole litotes and oxymorons.
PS can you spot the deliberate spelling error or isn't there one ?'"
You tell them Frank.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Get a life mate....us Leythers can't wait, testing ourselves against one of the best teams in Super League !'"
Glad you have put it into context Budgie by saying one of the best teams. ![Embarassed icon_surprised.gifops:](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_redface.gif)
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| I bet if you'd drawn Wigan away it'd have been declared a fix, and the RFL being corrupt, despite not playing away at Wigan in the cup since 1987. ![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif)
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"Glad you have put it into context Budgie by saying one of the best teams.
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Currently.....Best Team in SL !
Said to my mate, on the chances of getting thrashed, 2 ties I didn't want. Leeds or Wigan away....and hey presto !
I know Warrington/Cas/Widnes wouldn't have been easy....but it's bl00dy typical...still you have to be innit, to win it ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| The only person I've seen make a big fuss about leeds draw on here, is william eve.
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| Quote ="CM Punk"I bet if you'd drawn Wigan away it'd have been declared a fix, and the RFL being corrupt, despite not playing away at Wigan in the cup since 1987.
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Leeds have been so unlucky in CC draws that they have drawn Wigan 4 times at home since then (since 1999 actually).
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| Quote ="CM Punk"I bet if you'd drawn Wigan away it'd have been declared a fix, and the RFL being corrupt, despite not playing away at Wigan in the cup since 1987.
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No, its only a fix when Wigan draw teams worse than them. Keep up!
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| Quote ="CM Punk"I bet if you'd drawn Wigan away it'd have been declared a fix, and the RFL being corrupt, despite not playing away at Wigan in the cup since 1987.
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Yeah and we would've 100% genuinely meant it.......we would've even made flags too highlighting this injustice at said game. You can't be anymore serious than to get flags involved.
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| 7 pages and going strong.
ATEOTD it's all irrelevant, we play who we play. The fact we're playing a Championship team in the next round may be seen as easy but we've just beaten the only team to have previously beaten us this season which wasn't so easy.
Swings & roundabouts.
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| Since drawing Wigan away in the CC during the 1987/88 season, Leeds have been involved in 71 cup draws up to and including the Quarter Finals.
[uDuring those 71 CC draws, the following stats apply...[/u
Leeds drawn at home 46 times (around 65% of the time).
Leeds drawn away from home 25 times (around 35% of the time).
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| Quote ="William Eve"Since drawing Wigan away in the CC during the 1987/88 season, Leeds have been involved in 71 cup draws up to and including the Quarter Finals.
[uDuring those 71 CC draws, the following stats apply...[/u
Leeds drawn at home 46 times (around 65% of the time).
Leeds drawn away from home 25 times (around 35% of the time).'"
Great that you mention 71 ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="glow"Great that you mention 71
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Well spotted ![bow down a014.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a014.gif)
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| At the moment I have some sort of cold plus a splitting headache ,also I have been to the dentist for a filling.
Reading this thread has cheered me up completely , long may it continue .
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| I only wish that the Leeds players are as complacent as the posts on this MB. Everyone is expecting a stroll in the park and a score to match the cricket scores next door. Let's hope this complacency is infectious. You never know in a 80 minute game of rugby. An injury to a key player, a sin-binning or sending off. One thing's for sure the Leigh players and fans are going to enjoy a fantastic game of Rugby League. It's going to be brilliant and the fans are going to make the Leigh players proud to be part of our adventure back to the big time. I hope your ground is fully covered. We are used to a modern state of the art stadium in Leigh. :O)
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"I only wish that the Leeds players are as complacent as the posts on this MB. Everyone is expecting a stroll in the park and a score to match the cricket scores next door. Let's hope this complacency is infectious.'"
Even though (apart from one poster that said we could rest a few) no one has mentioned anything about a stroll or cricket scorelines, not sure where you got that from TBH.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Terribly unfortunate CC draw for the Leeds Rhinos yet again as their bad luck continues unabated.
In the last 10 seasons, Leeds have...
1) Been drawn at home only 18 times out of a possible 26.
2) Been unfortunately drawn away from home 8 times out of a possible 26.
3) Have drawn WBSLR 13 times out of a possible 26.
4) Have drawn Non-SL Rabble 7 times out of a possible 26.
5) Have drawn French Surrender Monkeys once (At home, naturally).
6) Have drawn serious SL opposition 5 times out of a possible 26 (At home on each occasion, naturally).
It's about time Leeds got some luck in Challenge Cup draws.
No.
Really.'"
8 pages, have you come yet?
Who gives a tuppeny Shiite what the cup draw is, it's all down to chance but that doesn't suit your agenda does it....
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| Quote ="William Eve"Since drawing Wigan away in the CC during the 1987/88 season, Leeds have been involved in 71 cup draws up to and including the Quarter Finals.
[uDuring those 71 CC draws, the following stats apply...[/u
Leeds drawn at home 46 times (around 65% of the time).
Leeds drawn away from home 25 times (around 35% of the time).'"
And I bet if you tossed a coin 71 times you'd get similar results with around 65% on heads or tails and 35% on tails or heads.
But still, it's utterly thrilling stuff.
No, really.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Terribly unfortunate CC draw for the Leeds Rhinos yet again as their bad luck continues unabated.
In the last 10 seasons, Leeds have...
1) Been drawn at home only 18 times out of a possible 26.
2) Been unfortunately drawn away from home 8 times out of a possible 26.
3) Have drawn WBSLR 13 times out of a possible 26.
4) Have drawn Non-SL Rabble 7 times out of a possible 26.
5) Have drawn French Surrender Monkeys once (At home, naturally).
6) Have drawn serious SL opposition 5 times out of a possible 26 (At home on each occasion, naturally).
It's about time Leeds got some luck in Challenge Cup draws.
No.
Really.'"
well you haven't done a no really for ages
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| Quote ="William Eve"Leeds have been so unlucky in CC draws that they have drawn Wigan 4 times at home since then (since 1999 actually).'"
So what how many more times are you going to tell us?NO REALLY.
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| I'm looking for some information on how many times Leeds have been drawn at home in the Cup in recent years. Anybody know where I can find out?
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