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Leeds proved again in the CC semi that they are capable of winning the big games against the form sides, like we did earlier in the year in the WCC.
Leeds seem to be playing 'the game' and the format of Super League very well.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"He said "the" top side. Not "a" top side.
Anyone who believes in all seriousness that Leeds have been the top side in the competition over the last two years (remind me who competed in the 2010 Grand Final and 2011 WCC again?) has rocks in their head.'"
Leeds are the current World Club and SuperLeague Champions, they are currently 'the' top side.
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| Quote ="The Ice Man"No official confirmation, Colton himself has tweeted earlier this evening that I "looks like I'm off to Sydney to play Toyota cup"'"
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| Quote ="Wheels"Quote ="Andy Gilder"He said "the" top side. Not "a" top side.
Anyone who believes in all seriousness that Leeds have been the top side in the competition over the last two years (remind me who competed in the 2010 Grand Final and 2011 WCC again?) has rocks in their head.'"
Leeds are the current World Club and SuperLeague Champions, they are currently 'the' top side.
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| Quote ="rhino2009"I agree. That's what I meant when I said we are currently "the" top side. To maintain that position we cannot just rely on youngsters, good as they are, but they need to be supplemented with a few quality experienced signings.'"
Ideally yes....but the club seems to have struggled with those in recent seasons (apart from Buderus of course; but even so it was not the position that needed [imost[/i strengthening. I guess, however, Leeds cannot be blamed for the Eastwood saga and Delaney might well have developed into a decent forward, but he was signed as a pretty average centre).
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Quote ="rhino2009"I agree. That's what I meant when I said we are currently "the" top side. To maintain that position we cannot just rely on youngsters, good as they are, but they need to be supplemented with a few quality experienced signings.'"
Ideally yes....but the club seems to have struggled with those in recent seasons (apart from Buderus of course; but even so it was not the position that needed [imost[/i strengthening. I guess, however, Leeds cannot be blamed for the Eastwood saga and Delaney might well have developed into a decent forward, but he was signed as a pretty average centre).
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Went to the game tonight and got talking to hull fc fan
And they was tell me that leeds trying to get Tom Briscoe
I hope we do and play him at with hall
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Someone needs to teach him to tackle before he starts playing regularly in the centre.
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Must admit I have heared the same rumour, but cant imagine playing him at the centre hes too dodgey
defensively. Its time to move Hall to centre and bring in a new winger, he has all the size, strength to be a mal maninga style centre. Obviously he needs to develope his passing skills to move up but I feel he can. Alternative is to leave him on the wing and sign a quality overseas .
Three players we might be looking at at centre though not the best but might come at a reasonable price
are. Daryl Millard, Joel Moon, and that Keith Lulia at the bulls. I undesrtand we were onece looking at Millard.
The other two should be available soon when the adminstartors cash in ! Any thoughts ?
On the Hull board the are saying Briscoe is contracted till end of 2013. So i cant see anything changing there
Pearson would not sell one of his prized assets unless he knows hes moving on he might cash in early as that
Tom Lineham has looked very impressive and could take Briscoes place.
Any news on Scott Taylor ? I would say this guy is exactly what we want and we should moveheaven and earth to get him. It seems to have gone quite at the KC on young Scott so I hope we are making a move. IMO he will go all the way in the game and is the best young prop since Burgess and FGB.
I still have a feeling that Wire might be looking at him with Carvell and Morley comming to the end of their sell by dates.
Any thoughts ?
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Not sure how true this is (the chap who told me does seem to get them right 9/10 times) but we might have already agreed a fee for Briscoe. We apparently stepped out of the running for Ellis and allowed them to sign Pitts. There might also be an academy product going their way too, not sure if it's on loan or permanent.
As for Briscoes defence. That can easily be worked on and if he is played inside of Hall, Hall can cover defensively while Broscoe got up to speed
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| Quote ="Tingley Rhino"Must admit I have heared the same rumour, but cant imagine playing him at the centre hes too dodgey
defensively. Its time to move Hall to centre and bring in a new winger, he has all the size, strength to be a mal maninga style centre. Obviously he needs to develope his passing skills to move up but I feel he can. Alternative is to leave him on the wing and sign a quality overseas Centre.
Three players we might be looking at at centre though not the best but might come at a reasonable price
are. Daryl Millard, Joel Moon, and that Keith Lulia at the bulls. I undesrtand we were onece looking at Millard.
The other two should be available soon when the adminstartors cash in ! Any thoughts ?
On the Hull board the are saying Briscoe is contracted till end of 2013. So i cant see anything changing there
Pearson would not sell one of his prized assets unless he knows hes moving on he might cash in early as that
Tom Lineham has looked very impressive and could take Briscoes place.
Any news on Scott Taylor ? I would say this guy is exactly what we want and we should moveheaven and earth to get him. It seems to have gone quite at the KC on young Scott so I hope we are making a move. IMO he will go all the way in the game and is the best young prop since Burgess and FGB.
I still have a feeling that Wire might be looking at him with Carvell and Morley comming to the end of their sell by dates.
Any thoughts ?'"
The rumour about Briscoe might be true but I thought his preference was NRL. For centre Millard has alrady signed a new contract with Catalans. Luila might be a possibility if/when Bulls players become available. I think it's a 2 horse race for Taylor between us and Hull but hope we get him. I've heard that hopefully there could be 2/3 big signings but no names mentioned. |
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No to Briscoe, will be going to the NRL at the end of his contract. Hearing rumours that we have enquired to Melbourne Storm for Gareth Widdop.
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Im a Rhinos fan that lives in Melbourne and I genuinely cannot see Widdopp leaving the Storm for Leeds. It doesn't suprise me we've asked and I would LOVE to see him in a Leeds shirt despite it meaning that I would only see him live a couple of times a year but for me that will never happen anytime soon. He's really valued at the Storm and when Slater got injured and he moved back to Full Back, Melbourne seemed to lack real direction in the halves. For me he is one of the real unsung heroes in that Storm team. I doubt they would let him go easily. He also has a young family in Melbourne, which again I suspect is a reason more to stay there than come to Leeds.
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Widdop would be brilliant but just can't see it. As for briscoe he has potential but I think some nrl teams would be in for him
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| Quote ="Fab Mas"Im a Rhinos fan that lives in Melbourne and I genuinely cannot see Widdopp leaving the Storm for Leeds. It doesn't suprise me we've asked and I would LOVE to see him in a Leeds shirt despite it meaning that I would only see him live a couple of times a year but for me that will never happen anytime soon. He's really valued at the Storm and when Slater got injured and he moved back to Full Back, Melbourne seemed to lack real direction in the halves. For me he is one of the real unsung heroes in that Storm team. I doubt they would let him go easily. He also has a young family in Melbourne, which again I suspect is a reason more to stay there than come to Leeds.'"
Welcome to the forum and you're supporting the Rhinos in Melbourne! The message only said we had enquired to the Storm about Widdop and probably GH got the response you have mentioned. However there's no harm in at least seeing who is available. I know Widdop's got a young family but he also still has loads of connections in Yorkshire as he's only lived in Melbourne for 6/7 years. Let's hope Gary H has persuaded Storm to let him go! |
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I've heard the same rumour. It makes sense, a young English international and can play in any back postion. He's only been in Aus 6/7 years and has lots of friends and family in West Yorkshire.'"
Is this guy for real - surely rhino2009 is somebody on a wind up - nobody is this naive.
On the subject of Widdop - massively overrated. He's one of those 'steady eddies' that Bellamy packs his teams with. Smith, Cronk and Slater make that team tick, along with Bellamys' structures. Although Widdop plays 6, he does zero organising, and minimal kicking. If Slater or Cronk are available at first receiver, they get the ball over Widdop every time.
The reason Melbourne were disjointed when Widdop moved to 1 was because Slater wasn't playing, not because Widdop wasn't at 6.
Add Widdop to a long line of decent players Bellamy has made look like world beaters (See also Bryan Norrie, Sika Manu, Dane Neilson, Ryan Hinchcliffe, Todd Lowry, even Ryan Tandy looked good enough for the Doggies to snap him up) by playing them in such a good structure, marshalled by 3 superstars. People just see that Widdop is playing 6 for Melbourne and automatically think that makes him a superstar.
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I disagree about Widdopp - he will be a much better 6 than you give him credit for. It should be no surprise that he's not a 'go to' man at the moment with the others you mentioned in the team, but when he does get the ball he looks class.
If anything the problem the Storm have when e.g. Cronk is out is that 90% of their plays go through the big 3, and when even one of them is out they lose their attacking structure. I thought Bellamy might have looked to spread the load a bit more this year by including Widdopp in more attacking plays, but he's sticking with the game plan.
That's nothing at all to do with whether Leeds will sign him. Even if he was available and interested (which I don't believe), who would make way - Sinfield, McGuire, Ward?.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I disagree about Widdopp - he will be a much better 6 than you give him credit for. It should be no surprise that he's not a 'go to' man at the moment with the others you mentioned in the team, but when he does get the ball he looks class.
If anything the problem the Storm have when e.g. Cronk is out is that 90% of their plays go through the big 3, and when even one of them is out they lose their attacking structure. I thought Bellamy might have looked to spread the load a bit more this year by including Widdopp in more attacking plays, but he's sticking with the game plan.
That's nothing at all to do with whether Leeds will sign him. Even if he was available and interested (which I don't believe), who would make way - Sinfield, McGuire, Ward?.'"
Dont get me wrong, I think he's decent, and is a great broken field runner, but I don't see him as an organiser or 'go to' man. The point about 90% of plays going through those 3 means that he doesn't get to show those skills often enough - he may be capable of doing it, but doesn't get the opportunity.
This is why I wouldn't have him at 6 for England or Leeds - other than broken field running, because of the role he plays at 6 for Melbourne, he shows nothing in the weekly NRL rounds that puts him above the likes of Sinfield, McGuire, Lomax, Brough etc. |
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World Champions Leeds Rhinos are delighted to announce the capture of Penrith Panthers forward Mitch Achurch, 24, on a four year contract from the 2013 season.
Achurch, who previously played at North Queensland Cowboys, broke into the Penrith NRL side this season. The 6'5" 18 stone forward has made eight appearances in the NRL so far this season for Penrith, including this weekend's defeat at Melbourne. His mother was born in London and moved to Australia as a teenager however Achurch is looking forward to coming back to the UK. He can play in the front row and back row but has also played in the centres.
He commented, "I am really pleased to have signed for four years at the Rhinos. It was obviously a big decision for me but my mum still has a lot of family in England and this feels like the right decision for me. Growing up, every kid dreams of playing in the NRL and I have done that now and it was flattering to have both Penrith and Manly keen to sign me. But, having spoken to Gary Hetherington and Brian McDermott, I am really pleased to join up with the Rhinos. I think the Super League competition will suit my natural game and I am excited about coming over to England for the next four years at least but hopefully longer.
"My first focus is coming over and doing my best for Leeds Rhinos but obviously with my heritage that would make me available for England and the World Cup next year. There is a long way to go between now and then and I need to be playing well but training and playing with world class players at the Rhinos can only help me to develop as a player," added Achurch.
Leeds Rhinos Chief Executive Gary Hetherington said, "We are delighted to have signed a young player with outstanding potential on a long term contract from the NRL. In the current market it is becoming increasingly difficult to sign players who are at the peak of their game from Australia however the challenge is to spot emerging talent and we believe we have got an exciting prospect in Mitch, who will fit in well with the dynamic within our current squad."
Head Coach Brian McDermott added, "We are always looking to identify young talent both in Super League and elsewhere and Mitch is someone we were keen to sign once we have spotted his potential. At 24, he is obviously not the finished product but it has been great to speak to him and hear his appetite to develop and fulfil his potential here at the Rhinos over the next four seasons."
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World Champions Leeds Rhinos are delighted to announce the capture of Penrith Panthers forward Mitch Achurch, 24, on a four year contract from the 2013 season.
Achurch, who previously played at North Queensland Cowboys, broke into the Penrith NRL side this season. The 6'5" 18 stone forward has made eight appearances in the NRL so far this season for Penrith, including this weekend's defeat at Melbourne. His mother was born in London and moved to Australia as a teenager however Achurch is looking forward to coming back to the UK. He can play in the front row and back row but has also played in the centres.
He commented, "I am really pleased to have signed for four years at the Rhinos. It was obviously a big decision for me but my mum still has a lot of family in England and this feels like the right decision for me. Growing up, every kid dreams of playing in the NRL and I have done that now and it was flattering to have both Penrith and Manly keen to sign me. But, having spoken to Gary Hetherington and Brian McDermott, I am really pleased to join up with the Rhinos. I think the Super League competition will suit my natural game and I am excited about coming over to England for the next four years at least but hopefully longer.
"My first focus is coming over and doing my best for Leeds Rhinos but obviously with my heritage that would make me available for England and the World Cup next year. There is a long way to go between now and then and I need to be playing well but training and playing with world class players at the Rhinos can only help me to develop as a player," added Achurch.
Leeds Rhinos Chief Executive Gary Hetherington said, "We are delighted to have signed a young player with outstanding potential on a long term contract from the NRL. In the current market it is becoming increasingly difficult to sign players who are at the peak of their game from Australia however the challenge is to spot emerging talent and we believe we have got an exciting prospect in Mitch, who will fit in well with the dynamic within our current squad."
Head Coach Brian McDermott added, "We are always looking to identify young talent both in Super League and elsewhere and Mitch is someone we were keen to sign once we have spotted his potential. At 24, he is obviously not the finished product but it has been great to speak to him and hear his appetite to develop and fulfil his potential here at the Rhinos over the next four seasons."
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Unless everyone else is injured he hasn't got a hope.
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