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| The way this seasons gone I wouldn’t dismiss such thinking. Bar Sts & Warrington everyone’s beating everyone else and FC surely must be able to iron out the inconsistencies sooner than later to join the top two group.
Anything could happen this year!
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| I will be having a meal with family before I head for the airport .Itching to sneak a look at updates .
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| Quote ="Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino" Bar Sts & Warrington everyone’s beating everyone else and FC surely must be able to iron out the inconsistencies sooner than later to join the top two group.
Anything could happen this year!'"
Exactly my thoughts too,It's almost nailed on for Saints to win the GF as they are by far the best side.
Warrington will also fancy getting to the GF as they are currently 2nd best by a decent margin before even mentioning Hull FC
Although we've seen before that clear stand out sides don't always smoke the winners cigar, could the ghost of 2017 rear its ugly head again and p155 all over Saints' bonfire like when the Rhinos sent the Tigers home in floods of tears?
Whist at the bottom of the table from Cas who are currently 4th in the table (Who are closer to the relegation battle than being in the top 2). Then they're only 6 points in front of Rhinos,Giants,Hull KR & London who are all currently level bottom on points and Cas could still yet be either champions or being relegated
Proof of poor standard of quality in SL currently which urgently needs addressing IMO
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| Agreed. Bar the top two at the moment most money would rightly go on them taking out silverware, Im going to say I think theres going to be a twist in the tail before the end of the season trophies are handed out with one of these front runners being caught out. Whether if thats by FC finally pushing on or whether its an end of season Goons grind-a-thon masterclass Im not sure , as for the lower half, its just a total crapshoot, whos going to string a few games together or go into freefall? any of the teams from 6th downwards I think are in danger (though probably NOT Salford) its a total nail biter.
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| Quote ="The Chin's Back"Exactly my thoughts too,It's almost nailed on for Saints to win the GF as they are by far the best side.'"
To be fair they were by far the best side by a distance last year as well if I remember and they bottled it in the semi and didn't even make the final so be interesting to see if they can make it count this year
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| Wigan'll win the GF
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| Quote ="Bang"Wigan'll win the GF'"
Not this year. Not the quality or the coach to get the job done from outside the top 2. Will probably make the 5 though.
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| I wonder what the bottom 4 will look like after this weekends round . The relegation battle is proving more exciting than the top 5
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"I wonder what the bottom 4 will look like after this weekends round . The relegation battle is proving more exciting than the top 5'"
I actually think all 4 will lose so as you were.
Just hoping I’m proved wrong and we get a result at Cas
Can’t see Hudds beating Salford
Can’t see KR beating Wigan
Can’t see Lindon beating Wolves
But this season is unpredictable, what would be interesting is if all 4 bottom teams win
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| Huddersfield Salford could go either way
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| Well I was totally wrong about the Hudds Salford game, Hudds have done OK but Salford look absolutely dire this evening
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| Neither side looks great. Would have been better for us if Hudds had lost but if we can’t outperform these kind of sides over the next 9 games we deserve everything we get.
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| 2378 crowd WTF
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| Quote ="christopher"Well I was totally wrong about the Hudds Salford game, Hudds have done OK but Salford look absolutely dire this evening'"
Told you
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| Quote ="apm"2378 crowd WTF'"
How can Salford sustain a Super League club?
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| Huddersfield and London probably get less
Super league is really struggling at present
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| Quote ="apm"2378 crowd WTF'"
Thursday nights for ya. Not that there a boat load more on a weekend but still..
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| Things would get even more interesting if ourselves, Hull KR and London manage to get wins this weekend.
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| Quote ="christopher"Well I was totally wrong about the Hudds Salford game, Hudds have done OK but Salford look absolutely dire this evening'"
Maybe it wasn't Hastings who was the talent in their half's after all ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="apm"Huddersfield and London probably get less
Super league is really struggling at present'"
With Salford getting a crowd of less than 2,500 I think saying super league is really struggling is an understatement, in reality its dying, its becoming a minority sport in the UK and it hurts to say this. In fact women's netball (no disrespect to women) have crowds nearly as high as what Salford, Huddersfield and London achieve. To try and defend this once great game becoming harder and harder to do. You look at the egoistic chairman of these clubs, knowingly surviving on the Sky money of £2M per club and you now know why this sport isn't getting any better. It will not be long before Sky pull the plug on sponsorship, and how many clubs will go to the wall. If Salford are getting crowds of less than 2500 why should Sky pay them £2m when their own supporters cannot even support them. Its time Super League and the farts who work there took the finger from their backsides and started to spend money in the UK and try to market this game. If that means teams like Salford, Huddersfield, and some others are removed and replaced with teams with some supporters, have a go at me if you wish, but simply to try and defend crowds of less than 2500 when its indefensible, you don't deserve a super league team. The league needs to be expanded to 14 teams so everyone plays each other home and away, and if you want promotion and relegation the scrap the cap on salaries, if you want the cap then franchise the sport. Candidly the sport is in a right mess and all the clubs with no money are making all the decisions. no wonder we are going downhill.
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| Quote ="Brodie123"With Salford getting a crowd of less than 2,500 I think saying super league is really struggling is an understatement, in reality its dying, its becoming a minority sport in the UK and it hurts to say this. In fact women's netball (no disrespect to women) have crowds nearly as high as what Salford, Huddersfield and London achieve. To try and defend this once great game becoming harder and harder to do. You look at the egoistic chairman of these clubs, knowingly surviving on the Sky money of £2M per club and you now know why this sport isn't getting any better. It will not be long before Sky pull the plug on sponsorship, and how many clubs will go to the wall. If Salford are getting crowds of less than 2500 why should Sky pay them £2m when their own supporters cannot even support them. Its time Super League and the farts who work there took the finger from their backsides and started to spend money in the UK and try to market this game. If that means teams like Salford, Huddersfield, and some others are removed and replaced with teams with some supporters, have a go at me if you wish, but simply to try and defend crowds of less than 2500 when its indefensible, you don't deserve a super league team. The league needs to be expanded to 14 teams so everyone plays each other home and away, and if you want promotion and relegation the scrap the cap on salaries, if you want the cap then franchise the sport. Candidly the sport is in a right mess and all the clubs with no money are making all the decisions. no wonder we are going downhill.'"
There seems a lot of tactical self-interest between the clubs and too little strategic planning for the overall health and development of the game.
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| There is more League on TV in the UK now than ever before whether it be NRL or SL. I don't know if Sky release their veiwing figures, in which case only they know how well supported it is from the armchair. This will have the biggest bearing on the next TV deal and supporters at the game really have little bearing on it
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"How can Salford sustain a Super League club?'"
I could see Salford going into free fall and they are overpriced at 33/1 to finish bottom (London are 4/5 favourites at present).
Salford have to play Wolves home and away as well London, Rhinos and Hull away. Their homes are Catalans, Shuddersfield and HKR.
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| Whilst I agree on the poor crowds at Salford and that there is far too much egotism, self interest and short termism in RL, let’s not pretend this is a new thing. This has been going on for as long as I can remember.
There’s no reason to suggest RL is going to “die” anytime soon. Nor is it suddenly becoming a minority sport. It’s been this way for decades.
Unfortunately the sport sacrificed any strength it had in the 70’s-90’s. When the sport had good crowds it decided not to invest in infrastructure or an international game or sowing the seeds of expansion either in the rest of the UK or elsewhere.
Then it just limped on through the 80’s and 90’s pretending to have a relevance it didn’t deserve simply because we could fill Wembley once a yeah because there was sod all else to do.
The sport has never once in the last 50 years even attempted to make itself relevant to people who don’t already watch it. It is the legacy of that we are struggling with now, on top of the same self-interest and short termism that was prevalent then.
Leeds shouldn’t have to be spending £40m+ now. It should have been done a long time ago.
Salford wouldn’t be getting crowds of 2,000 if they hadn’t sold their soul.
Wakefield wouldn’t be struggling with a millstone of a stadium if they’d upgraded it consistently.
Wigan wouldn’t be worrying about income from a football ground they don’t own. Etc etc.
But instead all the clubs chased on-field glory and bought players they couldn’t afford instead of investing.
It’s a bit better now, but nowhere near good enough, and there’s no stadiums left to sell anymore.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Too much is made is Smith to be honest. Last two weeks he has been there and they have looked poop. For me, depends on London results, because I think Hull KR are the worst of the teams down there. But do see exactly what you are saying in the Huddersfield point.'"
I did say after last week, Hull KR for me the worst side down there.
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