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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Beaten on his near post today.
Not a great start, Derby will be unlikey to finish in the top half, so a game we should have won.
Poor crowd. May struggle to make 20k average this season'"
Agree not the best goal to let in, even if hit like a rocket. But he made enough excellent saves, where he was totally exposed by errors in front of him, to be forgiven for that and, overall, he had a good game, certainly one of Leeds' top few performers.
Just don't bring me to write his surname.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Agree not the best goal to let in, even if hit like a rocket. But he made enough excellent saves, where he was totally exposed by errors in front of him, to be forgiven for that and, overall, he had a good game, certainly one of Leeds' top few performers.
Just don't bring me to write his surname.'"
TBF I haven't watched the full game, just the goals, and several people have said he made some class saves
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| A bit of stage fright,lack of quality in midfield and a dodgy penalty today.
The keeper was outstandin imo and Becchio and Sam will no probs at this level some positives to build on and a rude awakening for some others.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"A bit of stage fright,lack of quality in midfield and a dodgy penalty today.
The keeper was outstandin imo and Becchio and Sam will no probs at this level some positives to build on and a rude awakening for some others.'"
Pen looked cast iron to me. I'm not too disheartened, but teams like Derby are ones we should be beating
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"Pen looked cast iron to me. I'm not too disheartened, but teams like Derby are ones we should be beating'"
I admit i was in the pub but it looked like he played the ball to me mate but could be wrong.
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| He got the ball IMO.
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| Quote ="Matt23"He got the ball IMO.'"
I thought he had too.
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| We really, really need a midfield snapper. I thought Howson, Kilkenny and Johnson individually all did quite well today, but as a collective 3 it just didnt work. Commons was left the run of Elland Road and although we only lost to a dodgy pen, there are better teams than Derby and better players than Commons in this league. Maybe this Clayton lad is the answer, who knows?
Also lack of pace right up to looks to hamper us, especially with the enthusiatic distribution of Kaspar!
Collins and Bessone taking alot of flack on WACCOE, thought Collins was pretty good personally, Bessone not a great debut but looked ok defensively. Naylor is a worry for me, seems to get less mobile by the minute, think Alex Bruce will have a role to play in the next few games.
All in all a decent effort today but the areas we've all been banging on about that need strengthening, need strengthening.
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| Quote ="Matt23"We really, really need a midfield snapper. I thought Howson, Kilkenny and Johnson individually all did quite well today, but as a collective 3 it just didnt work. Commons was left the run of Elland Road and although we only lost to a dodgy pen, there are better teams than Derby and better players than Commons in this league. Maybe this Clayton lad is the answer, who knows?
Also lack of pace right up to looks to hamper us, especially with the enthusiatic distribution of Kaspar!
Collins and Bessone taking alot of flack on WACCOE, thought Collins was pretty good personally, Bessone not a great debut but looked ok defensively. Naylor is a worry for me, seems to get less mobile by the minute, think Alex Bruce will have a role to play in the next few games.
All in all a decent effort today but the areas we've all been banging on about that need strengthening, need strengthening.'"
Why oh why are you having me agree with you again?
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| Just trying to prove that I'm not a total fekkwitt haha!
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| Quote ="Matt23"Just trying to prove that I'm not a total fekkwitt haha!'"
I apologise for those earlier comments.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"I apologise for those earlier comments.'"
You big softy you!
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"I apologise for those earlier comments.'"
Now you are trolling me....
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| Quote ="Matt23"Now you are trolling me....'"
no. I still think its fekwittery to say told you so about DB after a good 20 minute spell but maybe I was a bit too strong in my replies.
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| Quote ="Era of the Biff"I thought he had too.'"
He may have got a slight touch on the ball, but you make a challenge like that and you've got to more on the ball than that IMO
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| By the way you will not see a better double save than the one (two?) that Schmeichel pulled off in the 2nd half, all season.
It's almost a shame that the one real positive is how many last ditch saves our keeper came out with, but he was outstanding IMO.
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| Defense looks very shaky. Becchio needed more support and Casper was our best player. Disappointed but I hope it's just an early wake up call to the standard we need to set ourselves.
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| We got what we deserved today and it could and should have been more. Kasper was outstanding and the Hulse goal was a rocket, nothing he could of done to save that.
The defence looks well dodgy, no pace at all and struggled all day. Collins and Naylor were both very poor, Bessone was dire and Connoley was the best of a bad bunch probably. Hopefully Bruce comes in and does better or we are goosed.
The midfield didn't help, over-run as i thought they would. Howson did well to create the goal but it was his fault that Hulse scored, gave the ball away trying to hold on to the ball too long and then got out-muscled and didn't have the pace to get back. This is a massive step up for the likes of him, he struggled last season along with Johnson and Killa and they will get over-run every week by teams in this division. They'll get better with experience but we need some steel adding in midfield with experience of this level or higher. I cant see how Larry plays all 3 of them together, they dont offer anything defensively as they cant tackle, they're all lightweight midfielders, none of them are major threats going forward and dont get many goals between them. Someone has to come in this week. We've had a kid from Millwall on trial apparently, Ali Fuseini, not sure if he's signing or not but he's free so must be OOC, only 21 but he's a big strong midfielder which is something we haven't got.
Up front we need a striker badly, Becchio is a battler and will score a few but he cant be expected to play up on his own and get all the goals. He hardly won a header today and all we did was knock it long in the second half, he's off-side all the time and he needs support. Paynter will score but is unproven at this level and IMO we need a Chopra or someone to get the goals.
Overall, we lack quality but Snoddy will add to that in attack as will Gradel. It's defensively that we need to improve massively and a proven goalscorer bringing in to play upfront with Becchio.
The penalty was correct IMO, Sam did touch the ball but he took the man first and the Derby player played the ball onto Sam. Grayson will need to get things sorted quickly because if we have a really poor start old Ken wont mess about, he'll have Larry out the door before Christmas if were down near the bottom.
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| Pretty much spot on LS14. Snodgrass is a big miss, excellent outlet IMO.
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| Apart from the keeper no quality whatsoever.going to be a real struggle this season.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"Apart from the keeper no quality whatsoever.going to be a real struggle this season.'"
I kind of agree with that. We definitely missed the players that were out. Quite badly. Kasper was awesome. Absolutely awesome. Chuffed with us signing him. I think we might struggle unless we bring in some decent proven players. Definitely need a striker as every man and his dog f-cking knows.
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| One of the biggest areas of concern for me yesterday was when we went 2-1 down, we had nobody to come off the bench that could make a difference to the game. However, we Gradel and snodgrass are back into contention we could have Sam and Watt or vica versa to come off the bench and make a big impact. But until then, and until we bring in another proven striker I think we are going to struggle should we go behind.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"Apart from the keeper no quality whatsoever.going to be a real struggle this season.'"
A little harsh to surmise that after just 1 game. We definitely need to improve but IMO a statement like that is a little like your ejaculation........
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| Oh and I think Howson is sh-t.
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