... A convert. That gives me a warm glow of satisfaction

Take your pick. Mullally a few times looked liked he was struggling to move his feet in defence. Ablett was heavily fatigued by the end having done the full 80. Achurch was either struggling (or hiding) towards the end of his spell.

He was at the start of his spell too.

Were any of the Hull forwards struggling at the same time?It seems Mc D has a quarter of the bench for strategic injuries rather than respite interchanges.For me the issue is with having a couple of half backs to exploit that fatigue.Not many teams seem to buy into the Sutcliffe show and go when he has not the pace to take advantage of that half gap.

Most players are fatigued by the end of a game to some extent. Given Hull had two props and two second rows on their bench I'd be surprised if they were to the same degree though.

We had 39 more carries though so did around 6 sets less defending.

I don't think I'll ever decode McDermott's thinking behind the unused sub. Over the years it's been numerous different positions - foward, back, halfback, and it's occurred in different types of games.

Nothing will ever beat the peak of it though. When we would have well over 30 years old kylie and JP doing 75 mins in a forward orientated, lung busting game with a cameo 5 minute appearence from keinhorst/walters/any squad player WITH an unused sub after that, effectively playing the game 2 men down.

Then losing by 2 points.

God bless Brian Mcdermott.

I saw that. Isn't Achurch in business with Kirke? I'm sure they strip to the waist and compare muscles, whilst oiling each other up.

I don't like saying this about anyone who laces up a pair of boots but Achurch displayed traits of cowardice Friday.

He's a big girls blouse and it's a crime he gets a shirt ahead of Baldwinson or any kid who who could have a real dig.

You have put that more mildly than i did G1

It Baffles me why Baldwinson isn't getting game time during this period. Perfect time to blood him imo and see what he has got. He must be dis heartened to see players out of form and plenty of injuries opening the door yet still no signs of an opportunity.

He's a little unlucky, in that the position he plays isn't one where we've had all the injuries. Had he been a second rower, I'm sure he would have been in the 17 on a regular basis. Even with a prop at 13 though, he's still effectively eighth choice for six spots behind Galloway, Garbutt, Cuthbertson, Mullally, Singleton, JJB and Delaney.

Yeah probably true.

I do hope if we fail to make the Super 8s he gets game time throughout the middle 8s, that would definitely be a chance to blood him.

Out of that list cuthbertson singleton and JJB would be ahead of him. Ben cross mk II is garbage but will get played, mullally is average no better than baldwinson. Garrbutt isn't pulling up any trees on current form. Delaney is constantly injured

Garbutt had 132m on Friday and over 200+ vs Salford. In fact only 1 appearance of his 7 this year has he not made 100m+. Not many props in the league give you that and I think he's been harshly criticised this year for someone that's given us near-Peacock-level metres carrying the ball.

I think the club are wary of throwing kids into the middle before they are physically ready.

Not sure if you made it to Salford but Leeds forced five drop-outs and someone racked up plenty of easy metres - just as Peacock often did in similar circumstances.

...and quite right too.

At least on Friday our players began to run towards the opposition defensive line instead of running in front of it.

Maybe that's the turning point.

One of the points made in commentary of the Carnegie game on Sunday was how often Sinfield straightens attacking plays and holds defenders before passing, creating time and space for those outside him. Something Burrow did much better out of dummy half than he's done when he has been playing 7.

It's never stopped them playing Achurch...

I would agree with that and something Sutcliffe has yet to learn. On Sinfield I think he has settled in to Union really well and is bringing the best out of their attacking backs.

the best thing about the free union ticket was getting into the cricket. though kev still looked good enough to play for us the rare times they passed to him insead of kicking it away.

re other points in the thread , there were a few times when we were behind 3 or 4 were struggling to get back in the attacking line after hull had turned over the ball

macd had a long word in falloons ear just before the end of the match

answers on a postcard as to what was said

Probably told him to bring a cushion to avoid getting splinters for the next few weeks



Burrow played well obviously, the wet slippery conditions seem to aid his style of play as we have seen at OT on many occasions. That said, i still see him as impact sub but feel this performance will nail down his place at hooker for the next month at least, is that a good thing? not imo.

burrow has been running round in circles since at least 2011 but has had match winning performances in the play offs

must be hard to coach

As Biff said Friday's Bon Jovi conditions really suit Burrow's style (clear MOTM performance) where he gets some joy when threatening the defensive line with pace and footwork. Let's all prey for a wet few weeks.