except he wont be eligible to play in challenge cup. They've done away with the second signing deadline this year iirc so if he aint here for your first cup game he's ineleigible for all of them.

No I don't, like every other driver on here.
But what I did after my 1st ,and only speeding conviction, was to take care in those circumstances where you're likely to get caught.
That's common sense something you clearly lack.

so if you was caught out again, then you would class yourself as stupid? or would you think that you've been unlucky on that day? (as a new camera appeared over night, or police never normally have speed trap on the road you was on, or even just that you have a 5/10 seconds lapse in concentration which lead to you going over the speed limit)

with out knowing details of eastwood's speeding offences, you can't comment on his stupidity

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And do league games stop whilst the Challenge Cup is on ? Of course not, so we can further rotate the squad as and when he does arrive.

This is more than a little amsing. Whilst the point might be slightly different over Bird and Eastwood, the comparison is funny.

Maybe Gary should have just kept quiet and checked his own situation with
Eastwood rather than claiming the moral high ground.

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Given that the majority of professional rugby players (and I'd expand that to "sportsmen in general"icon_wink.gif are the big daft lads at school who, if it weren't for the fact that they were good at sports would have ended up as big unemployed daft lads, then for someone who should know all about being a big daft lad struggling to find employment outside the game, (even I could get a job at Safestyle FFS) there's not a lot of moral high ground to look for let alone take, is there ?

has he not already signed.

just cos he's no visa yet

how does that make him ineleigible ,am i missing something.

But isn't his contract dependant on getting a visa? Wasn't there something similiar on the tread about Bradford's pet convict?

That depends if the visa is needed to register the player's contract with the RFL.

It must be nearly 5 months now - the season will be over before he arrives - are we paying his wages during this period, is that what the £1.50 visa fee, I mean booking fee is for

yes it is

I've only had one speeding ticket in over 30 years.
To answer your 1st commen I would class myself as stupid & be bloody annoyed with myself for being caught again because of the impact it could have on the costs of my car insurance.
Even more so since with sat nav you get advance warning of speed cameras, fixed & mobile and round where I live I know the usual spots that the police tend to use.
The issue with Eastwood is that Sporting Life alleged he had a string of speeding convictions, at 21 for goodness sake.

it seems these would be the grounds under which he has been refused if its for driving convictions - how would speeding come under these rules when Brits are not locked up for speeding

anyway, I doubt we are paying him, if he doesnt have a work permit it is illegal for him to work so he cant be paid

so if the police decide to move to a different position one day,which just so happens to be a spot where your day dreaming for 5 seconds. thus catch you speeding by 5mph, you'd class yourself at stupid? and not unlucky that you happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

sidenote:
baring in mind the chance of killing someone at 40mph, compared to 30mph. don't you think that going 10mph over the limit should be a bannable offence!
do you think the police/courts let you off with points & a fine because they're nice, or do you think that they give you (up to 5) chances because they know that its better to concentrate on the road ahead & know that with in the space on 10/15 seconds its very easy to be going 5/10mph over the limit with out noticing

how long is a piece of string ?


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If Eastwood applied for a British Passport and recieved one, would that entitle him to work here or would he still require a work permit?

good question

you need to require a work permit to get the uk passport, as i shown in the other thread.

a british citizen has every right to work here

B******er

It's a good job the Australians are less worried about criminal convictions when deciding wether someone can live and work there, or Eastwood would be completely out of options. Maybe there is some sort of historical precedent over there?



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according to the leaue express sheffield have had trevor exton's visa rejected on the same grounds.

What next, visa rejection for a parking ticket!!

Yes it would. No need for a work permit. It seems that a lot of these new players are getting "less than clear" advice before applying.

If Eastwood qualifies for a British passport why the hell is he applying for a visa?

Because - as has already been stated numerous times - if you are applying for a UK passport [ion ancestral grounds[/i you still need to be able to show you are able to work in the UK. No visa, no work permit, no UK passport.

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It's all the rage...

With the high profile players (Crocker, Bird + Eastwood) been declined working visa's, I was just wondering what the wider effects of these cases will be.

Obviously the first point of impact are the clubs who haven't got their new signings, they are left with a weaker squad at present. I can't help but think Bulls and Hull are harder hit than Leeds over this. Hull could have done with a huge presence to off-set Carvell and the Bulls IMO desperatley need some pace and individual skill in the middle of the park. While I think Leeds have enough quality internally to just get on with things. I'm talking about: Kirke, Ali, Ablett, JJB. There's four players to plug the gap. And I suppose we can't miss what we haven't had, if anything we will miss Ellis' dogged displays.

The next point of impact are the player's who have been declined. From a Leeds angle, Eastwood at the minute is in no-mans-land. He's signed up but not in the same country, or playing rugby. Leeds are appealing, but how long are Leeds willing to bat for this guy? And how long will Eastwood (at 21) be interested in not playing? I mean a swift return to the NRL should be easy enough for him to arrange. If there isn't a resolution on this quickly, I can see both parties, quite happily, going in different directions. I mean I bet Leeds at the minute are assessing 'other options'.

What are the wider implications? One that springs to mind, will be the hesitance of Super League clubs to sign imports. If they are harder to get over here and applications fail, maybe we'll see less over here in the next few seasons. Even if its just for precautionary reasons. This must be a positive thing if we spend more focus on our talent and develop our players, to aid our international prospects. But on the other hand the Celtics and Budeus got over here in the end. And will there be implications of staging international tournaments. I mean how many would get over? And I still wouldn't fancy taking on Australia's B Team, Donald hat-trick no question.