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| Quote ="Gotcha"I agree. He is literally the crappest of players, yet two moments won us the game. That pass was very good. Yet all the other times he just hold the ball.
That was arguably, in terms of possession and territory, our most dominant performance of the year, and yet we need a very lucky last minute penalty to win.
Parcell outstanding, Walker and Moon very good, Myler excellent second half, and I really do like Crosby. I would definitely give Crosby a deal.
Thompson looked really poor, along with a couple others, and god help us if Luke Briscoe is really what we go with next year.
Let’s just get this season over.'"
I think Sutcliffe would be better as a centre, hes clearly not a 6.
I agree about Crosby, I would definitely keep him too.
Myler was very good 2nd half but he needs a decent 6 hopefully tge new signing will help!
I think were safe now as we should be able to get past Halifax, we would have lost tgat game a month or so ago our defence seems to have improved, Just hope we can go into the game against Toronto safe I really want to be able to try and enjoy a game for once.
Salford need to try keep Hastings otherwise they will struggle next season.
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| Crosby really lmpressed tonight and is worth a contract for next season. I wouldn't imagine he would be amongst the highest earners and could be a regular in the 17. If we can get Garbutt fit, having him and Crosby in the 17 would help our go forward no end. I appreciate that he has only played a handful of games against poorer opposition but the signs are good.
Once again Sutcliffe comes in for plenty of criticism while Myler is described as excellent. I agree he improved in the 2nd half and played quite well, but that stood out because of how poor he is the rest of the time. We had numerous tackles on Salfords line in the 1st half, most of it one out rubbish. His lack of ability to organise and create play is shocking at times. It was a good job he was awarded the penalty at the end because that was another set of 6 heading nowhere.
Sutcliffe is not a 6 I agree. He hangs onto the ball far too often but we scored 3 tries tonight and he created 2 of them.
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| Quote ="christopher"
Salford need to try keep Hastings otherwise they will struggle next season.'"
I think it says a lot about how this Leeds team is that you only just managed to scrape a win against a Salford team that can only play with Hastings in it. Not forgetting, Sa'u, Nakubuwei, Burgess & Mossop were all missing and we started with Ryan Lannon at prop and bombed 2 or 3 tries in the last 15-20 minutes.
If we're going to struggle, god forbid how the mighty Leeds will cope without Joel Moon and James Child playing for you every week next season.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"I think it says a lot about how poop this Leeds team is that you only just managed to scrape a win against a Salford team that can only play with Hastings in it. Not forgetting, Sa'u, Nakubuwei, Burgess & Mossop were all missing and we started with Ryan Lannon at prop and bombed 2 or 3 tries in the last 15-20 minutes.
If we're going to struggle, god forbid how the mighty Leeds will cope without Joel Moon and James Child playing for you every week next season.
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If we’re playing the missing injured players card - Ryan Hall, Kallum Watkins, Mitch Garbutt, Stevie Ward, Carl Ablett...
Do you think that’s the best Rhinos side you faced?
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| We we're the better team but no world beaters by a long shot, we still struggle to produce points in op 20,good performances from Walker,T.Briscoe,Myler,Crosby and Parcell. Sutcliffe is one of weirdest players about, he can come up with stupid mistakes and lool clueless half the time then he can basically win us a must win match, with the break for Keinhorst try, then touch line conversion in second half then the pass for Briscoe second try and obviously the penalty goal at end. I'm just glad we got the win tonight if we beat Halifax next week we'll be safe and the rebuilding starts straight after that. MOT!!! ALAW!!!!
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"I think it says a lot about how poop this Leeds team is that you only just managed to scrape a win against a Salford team that can only play with Hastings in it. Not forgetting, Sa'u, Nakubuwei, Burgess & Mossop were all missing and we started with Ryan Lannon at prop and bombed 2 or 3 tries in the last 15-20 minutes.
If we're going to struggle, god forbid how the mighty Leeds will cope without Joel Moon and James Child playing for you every week next season.
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| Wasn't it a fantastic bit of karma for their number 32. The petulant little b-tch.
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| 2 points is 2 points, I'll take that.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"I think it says a lot about how poop this Leeds team is that you only just managed to scrape a win against a Salford team that can only play with Hastings in it. Not forgetting, Sa'u, Nakubuwei, Burgess & Mossop were all missing and we started with Ryan Lannon at prop and bombed 2 or 3 tries in the last 15-20 minutes.
If we're going to struggle, god forbid how the mighty Leeds will cope without Joel Moon and James Child playing for you every week next season.
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Remember both teams are here for a reason .Yes both teams !
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"I think it says a lot about how poop this Leeds team is that you only just managed to scrape a win against a Salford team that can only play with Hastings in it. Not forgetting, Sa'u, Nakubuwei, Burgess & Mossop were all missing and we started with Ryan Lannon at prop and bombed 2 or 3 tries in the last 15-20 minutes.
If we're going to struggle, god forbid how the mighty Leeds will cope without Joel Moon and James Child playing for you every week next season.
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If we're talking about who's missing, then we had Watkins, Hall,Ablett, Ward, Delaney and Garbutt if Leeds had Them playing i reckon Salford wouldn't have got within 18 points of us and if we haf them available all season then i don't think we'd be playing Salford in qualifiers. But we haven't had them all season so we have ended up playing Salford in qualifiers with pretty much all out class in stands watching.
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| I always look to the stats after, and I have a particular draw to missed tackles, because it tells a lot about a team. I think last night was Leeds lowest of the season, although still a poor 21 misses. Salford missed a ridiculous 39 tackles, that is poor. More alarming there is that despite this, and despite our dominance as a result, we still had to rely on a lucky last minute penalty to scrape the win.
Our defending has been poor all season, but this IMO, is a direct result of what we do when we have the ball, and our whole attack is just not good enough.
I see the post about Sutcliffe, and this apologist mentality for him all the time gets repetitive. It was actually already stated he won us the game, and that is not in doubt, he produced the two moments that mattered, and deserved the credit. But the rest of the game he bombed so much for us, and contributed 3 missed tackles, and four errors. Those were important faults, and exactly why it gets mentioned. You can’t just turn up for two minutes a game. Luke Briscoe was also critisized for the same reason, but his position is far less important to the team.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"I always look to the stats after, and I have a particular draw to missed tackles, because it tells a lot about a team. I think last night was Leeds lowest of the season, although still a poor 21 misses. Salford missed a ridiculous 39 tackles, that is poor. More alarming there is that despite this, and despite our dominance as a result, we still had to rely on a lucky last minute penalty to scrape the win.
Our defending has been poor all season, but this IMO, is a direct result of what we do when we have the ball, and our whole attack is just not good enough.
I see the post about Sutcliffe, and this apologist mentality for him all the time gets repetitive. It was actually already stated he won us the game, and that is not in doubt, he produced the two moments that mattered, and deserved the credit. But the rest of the game he bombed so much for us, and contributed 3 missed tackles, and four errors. Those were important faults, and exactly why it gets mentioned. You can’t just turn up for two minutes a game. Luke Briscoe was also critisized for the same reason, but his position is far less important to the team.'"
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| Wonder if Richie Myler is embarrassed about his antics this morning having just seen a clip of your last minute penalty.....?
And opposition fans wonder why it's so hard to get a result at Headingley after being shafted 2 seasons in a row by forward passes and inept refereeing.
Not that I'd expect any Leeds fan to admit we were cheated as along with Wiganers you're the most blinkered fans in rugby league.
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| Quote ="SaleSlim"Wonder if Richie Myler is embarrassed about his antics this morning having just seen a clip of your last minute penalty.....?
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Not as embarrassed as Ian Watson should be after that interview.
Think his dummy almost reached Salford it was spat that far.
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| Think we've had more than our fair share of bad luck this year by a long way. But the best team on the night won. We would have been robbed with only a point
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| I have to say in my opinion tho it was a pretty terrible call by Child at that point of the game. Yes the Salford player knocked the ball out but it was in making the tackle and not in an act of stealing the ball. We certainly got one there.
Terrible game tho, both teams were embarrassing to be honest.
Thought Crosby and Briscoe did well but really some of the attacking play was....well worse than junior rugby. My God an organising 6 and a tackle breaking forward or 2 are essential for next year.
Some hard work ahead to rebuild for next season as we all know. Surviving was the aim and that's virtually done now if not already achieved.
2 more games to suffer folks and let's see what off season brings.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"Not as embarrassed as Ian Watson should be after that interview.
Think his dummy almost reached Salford it was spat that far.'"
I think what Watson said was spot on correct. What he failed to mention was the number of times this went in favour of Salford in that second half, which would have made the two incidents he spoke about completely irrelevant, had they been pulled properly.
As for Myler, I really think the club should be sending a legal letter to sky and Carney for the ridiculous comments made there. That really was bang out of order and over stepped the mark. He should be publically apologising for that, especially considering all he saw was highlights, and then actually got the ruling wrong. To think it was bloody Phil Clark who was the voice of reason.
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| I would deffinatly sign Crosby up longer term, he's a good super league prop, english, only 27 and got big game experience, he's a lot better than Mullally imo. Think this season has shown you need 6 first team props in the squad, Garbutt, Singleton, Peteru, Crosby, Oledzki and a good quality new signing would put us in good shape for nxt season .
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| Thank you Gotcha and a few others for a mature balanced post instead of the Junior Anorak Brigade.
Watson wears his heart on his sleeve - remember these lads are playing for survival ... some for their family`s as clearly - even with contracts - they are not good enough for SL (Both sides). The two last minute decisions Childs made were BOTH wrong & very harsh.
A draw would have been the right result and also would have suited both sides.
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| It was a play at the ball in my view, if not he made contact with Mylers head which, going by the precedent set earlier in the half by the ref, is a penalty.
Some Salford fans appear to be forgetting the bizarre sinbinning earlier in the game. A sinbinning and penalty that would not have happened had the Salford player not stayed down injured.
Quite how Child and the touch judge went from allowing play on to a penalty and a sin bin I have no idea.
On the game itself, I thought Leeds were the most dominant team and showed a lot more patience than usual, though still lacking a bit of strike. When we play wide too early we look a bit lost. When we go forward first and then go wide we start looking dangerous.
Moon proving what a good player he is at centre and Sutcliffe unfortunately showing that despite the good things he does he’s not reliable. Too many silly decisions and mistakes from him that the good things can’t make up for.
Whoever got out to block the drop goal (was it Parcell?) and not only that but get on the ball as well deserves a medal!
Thought Briscoe, Moon, Singleton, Cuthbertson, Walker, Myler and Crosby were good.
I know what Gotcha means about our attack affecting our defence, however I think it’s the other way around. I think our lack of bite in defence is affecting our attack. We’re having to start further downfield and are more tired from backpedaling and scrambling more, and I think we don’t have confidence in our ability to keep a team penned in upfield so feel like we have to score when we attack rather than simply apply pressure. Which is why I was pleased with our patience (for the most part) in this game, and annoyed at Sutcliffe trying a daft offload after multiple sets on Salford’s line.
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