I think he works hard,makes his tackles and his carries. As occasional squad cover he's OK.

I do get what you mean about the running round though. I think we've said before on here he's got a knack for making the unspectacular look spectacular.

Anyway he'll be nowhere near when everyone is fit, and barring some improvement will be overtaken by the likes of Smith and Oledzki, maybe even Jordan Roberts sooner rather than later.

He is garbage, scares me every time i see him come onto the field.

This squad has bigger issues than a fringe player like Walters.

Does it?

Absolutely the next phase of the transition is imminent id say that's way bigger than whether Walters plays a few games or not.

Yes our half backs concern me more than our back up back up 2nd row Walters. Moon at stand off is a good running threat but offers no kicking game (what we need) and is not a good long term option.

Good to see you're finally in agreement that the club is already in transition.



I'd say that fringe players like Josh Walters are one of the bigger issues at the club though.
One of the key reasons for us struggling so much last year is that outside of our first 17 we didn't, have anyone that could come in and do a job.

Spot on, he's not the first squad filler and won't be the last in a SC sport, during the hat trick years we had Simon Worrall. He gets in only if we have several injuries and might play 20 minutes in which it's not like he constantly f**ks up, he just doesn't do anything really good. For his role at the club and minutes/matches he plays the level of moaning about him is completely disproportionate. You'd think he was playing 80 mins a week getting selected above a fit Ward and Ablett the way some go on.

During our success the fringe players have managed to contribute though because the 1st choice regulars around them were performing to their potential & we had the required quality within that squad the 2015-GF a perfect example.
How many "1st choice" superstars actually performed during that time you highlight?
Finally i always agreed we were in transition but didagreed how it's been handled & still think the biggest phase is yet to come in terms of numbers of 1st team/choice players that need replacing.

Completely agree

I'm sure I remember Josh Walters scoring in a grand final, so it's not impossible to win the comp with him in the team.

He missed the tackle to let Bowen in though.

He has been really poor though since that one great moment. Hasn't kicked on whatsoever, infact apart from showing a slight bit of promise when he first came in he has continued to regress imo.

Anyway, i agree with others that he is only a squad filler so not such a huge deal, however i personally would like to see an aspiring 19's player or Oledzki get his few minutes as i really don't see a future at the club for Walters or what he is bringing to the table.

just in the right place at the right time in the grand final. keinhorst put him over he only had to dive over the line. keinhorst kicked on since then walters has not, we have better coming through at least 3 players ready for or not far off ready for first team now. we let clarkson go who was a much better player so cant see walters being here next year, championship player at best.

Peacock and Hardaker didn't do so well with their attempts either.

Which fringe players of the past would you compare to Josh Walters? He makes Ian Kirke look like Jamie Peacock.
How many? Quite a few once they got fit and got some match time. We struggled before then because we had to rely too much on Div1 level players like Josh Walters.
No you didn't.

Simon Worrall
Liam Botham
Alex Foster
Jay Pitts
Dave Wrench

I liked both Foster and Pitts. They had some good attacking skills but very much came through at the wrong time.

Worrall is a good comparison for Walters imo.

If we went for better/stronger players in that 20-25 shirt number range it would no doubt cost more money, and would spending that money there impact on our ability to retain our starters....which we've been extremely good at for quite a while now.

true. but your assuming we wouldn't have the cap space to do that. either way with some of our youngsters looking very strong I can't see walters being involved next season

Sir Kev S points out some of the fringe players we have seen over the years add in Anselme wrt Kirke his last 3yrs epitomised "passenger".
Easy to blame the likes of Walters when very few 1st team regulars actually performed until very late in the season/middle 8's place was confirmed.
Onto the transition period look back at what i actually said it had always started my pov was the Club in terms of enough planning & recruitment etc hadn't there's a difference.

Sounds like Oledzki will get to play tomorrow, which excites me. Cannot wait to see what he has to offer at this level at such a young age.

Be good to see how he gets on hopefully it'll be the start of a long & great career in Blue n Amber.

Tone down that positivity son.

Nah, McDermott doesn't give youth a chance.