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| Quote ="joshua102"Its a blue slip just like the one for £10 shop voucher I think'"
Yeah, it didn't come in a book, it was just in the letter with your card.
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| Confirmed, Ryan hall out for a number of weeks with wrist fracture.
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Handley Watkins Moon Golding
Sutcliffe McGuire
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Burrow Singleton Achurch Delaney
Providing Delaney and Moon don't fail late fitness tests.
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| Quote ="Frosties."Confirmed, Ryan hall out for a number of weeks with wrist fracture.
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Handley Watkins Moon Golding
Sutcliffe McGuire
Cuthbertson Aiton Leuluai
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Burrow Singleton Achurch Delaney
Providing Delaney and Moon don't fail late fitness tests.'"
Why no JP?
Also I thought Kylie was still a couple of weeks away?
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Why no JP?
Also I thought Kylie was still a couple of weeks away?'"
Apparently, they're considering whether or not to send Kylie for surgery on his bicep. If he has surgery it will keep him out for 3 months. BM said they're somewhat reluctant to send him for surgery as it is his last season.
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| Quote ="Claypitrhino"Sal I'm not going to argue your point, not just yet anyway, first I'm intrigued to know who these 3 or Fullbacks are?
It's hardly been a season IMO so far that any fullback has stood out.
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I listed who I thought the 3/4 FB were on the previous thread. So as you say no point going over old ground
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| Here's a novel idea. Who's next man up among wingers in the 19s - presumably Tommy Brierley or Ryan Jones?
Why not give them a go before we start shifting players out of their usual position, particularly young players who are going to find the transition to SL difficult enough as it is?
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| Thanks for replies. Finish work a bit earlier today so going to turn my place upside down looking for it. I used the £10 shop voucher already and found the 2015 handbook thing somewhere completely random by itself, which makes me think the travel voucher is doing its own thing somewhere in the big, wide world. Thanks.
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| I meant JP where Leuluai is, sorry.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Here's a novel idea. Who's next man up among wingers in the 19s - presumably Tommy Brierley or Ryan Jones?
Why not give them a go before we start shifting players out of their usual position, particularly young players who are going to find the transition to SL difficult enough as it is?'"
they need to be at the required standard cant just play them regardless just because you have a gap.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Here's a novel idea. Who's next man up among wingers in the 19s - presumably Tommy Brierley or Ryan Jones?
Why not give them a go before we start shifting players out of their usual position, particularly young players who are going to find the transition to SL difficult enough as it is?'"
You mean using our Academy?
It'll never catch on......
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| Did Joe Vickery get sent down? we could get him back for a few weeks.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"they need to be at the required standard cant just play them regardless just because you have a gap.'"
Agreed. But you also need to play the player who is going to be most effective in that position. Is an out of position Golding necessarily a better option than a "lesser" player who understands and is used to playing the position?
If we were short of half-backs, nobody would be suggesting playing Carl Ablett there ahead of Jordan Lilley, despite Ablett clearly being the more talented player of the two.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Agreed. But you also need to play the player who is going to be most effective in that position. Is an out of position Golding necessarily a better option than a "lesser" player who understands and is used to playing the position?
If we were short of half-backs, nobody would be suggesting playing Carl Ablett there ahead of Jordan Lilley, despite Ablett clearly being the more talented player of the two.'"
I agree with this. I would rather have a lesser and younger kid who knows the position playing there than a better and older player who doesn't really have the understanding or attributes to play the role well. You then shoot yourself in the foot twice - losing the player you have moved in the position he is competent in, plus carrying someone in a position they don't really know best what to do.
If the wingers in the U-19s don't understand he requirements of being a winger, then best off putting someone else there who doesn't totally either, but is a better player overall.
If the U19 wingers are really switched on with their role understanding, but are a bit naïve and need more experience - get them in.
It used to totally peck my head in the football when situations like this arose; managers would usually play a midfielder or full back in defence, that was totally clueless rather than playing a young defender who although wet behind the ears, at least had a grasp of the requirements and subtleties of being a defender.
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| We'll be missing: Chase, Hauraki, J Griffin, Paterson, Lee, Locke, A Walne, J Walne. We have G Griffin out on loan at Wakefield and I don't think he can be recalled yet, so I expect young Matty Gee will make his super league debut.
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9. Liam Hood
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| forgot about Darrell Griffin. easily done i suppose.
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| Loads of FB's and centres make quite a few of there first senior appearances on the wing. It's not exactly like we'd be putting a prop on the wing by going with Golding there. Watkins, Hardaker, Lee Smith to name but a few who started off there mostly at the start.
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| Billy McDermott and Ryan Jones are the wingers in the U19s IIRC. From what I've seen both are WAY off SL standard at this time,
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Billy McDermott and Ryan Jones are the wingers in the U19s IIRC. From what I've seen both are WAY off SL standard at this time,'"
Spot on.
Golding on the wing, retaining Hardaker at fullback is the way to go as far as I'm concerned.
As has been said earlier many half backs & fullbacks have debuted on the wing.
Iestyn Harris for example & Hardaker himself.
The back three have to operate as a unit so all have to be able to deal with kicks & bringing the ball back.
With Hall & Briscoe missing we will be weaker but we just have to deal with it.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Billy McDermott and Ryan Jones are the wingers in the U19s IIRC. From what I've seen both are WAY off SL standard at this time,'"
Jones is a brilliant player, wasted on the wing, but still young.
MCDermott is pants, never looked like he would make a decent level rugby player. Seems to be out of who you know.
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| Looks like both teams are missing a few. Just hope watkins and cuthbertson are quiet ha anyway hopefully will be a cracker between 2 in-form teams ☺
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| Keinhorst will almost certainly play, then just a question of where, depending on whether Moon is fit.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Jones is a brilliant player, wasted on the wing, but still young.'"
Certainly got the size, speed and hands to be a better centre than winger. Not sure what position he played most of his junior rugby at?
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| I'd go with least resistance and put Keinhorst on the wing outside Moon. He's got some speed, he'll do fine there.
If Moon's out, that shakes things up a bit, and I would be more tempted to bring Ablett into centre as a short term fix. Ending up with Handley, Golding/Jones and Keinhorst all in the 3/4 line looks a little under-experienced to me. Happy for them all to have game time, but maybe not all at once just yet!
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