It was a very bad night for football and in particular for Leeds United. I am afraid to say that over the years United supporters appear to be some of the worst in the country, to name a few examples Paris 1975, Birmingham 1985, Bournmouth 1989 and Bradford 1986. The club seems to attract some of the worst elements of society. It is not that long ago United's ground like several others were fully of NF and British Movement supporters. I hope the thug is sent to prison and also the so called supporters who were chucking the seats.

But in regards to the comments by Mr Jones about vile charts, I am afraid all club supporters tend to chart things like that. It is wrong, but alias RL club supporters are no angels, think of the chants at Sean Long, James Graham to name but a few.

Whilst there are a couple of chants in RL that aren't very nice (I especially don't like the "get your fathers gun" chant, not because of the getting the gun bit but because I hate the use of the word scum) I don't think taking the mickey out of someone's hairstyle or calling them fat is in the same league as revelling in the deaths of opposition players or fans.

I've no idea what was being chanted at Jones although I can probably guess. If correct, it's far more unpleasant than anything I've ever heard directed towards either Long or Graham. Given Jones' trial and sunsequent acquittal, his reaction comes as no surprise whatsoever and I don't blame him for it one bit. If well-behaved Leeds fans don't appreciate being tarred with the same brush then they should take more obvious steps to put their own house in order, as opposed to justifying the actions of their comrades by finger pointing at the opposition fans.

I thionk it's silly and incorrect to claim that all football fans are "vile" or that it's the whole sport. I played at various levels of amateur football from the age of 7 to the age of 29 when my ankles decided it was time for me to hang the boots up. I can honestly say that the standards of behaviour and respect throughout the amateur game in that game was vastly better than what you see at the top. You get idiots, but mostly they're dealt with (often by their own team) and you even get the occasional team that are not doing things in the right spirit, but they're a minority. I can think of 3 across 6 or 7 leagues I've played in.

I have long since lost interest in top level football. I used to watch Guiseley before I moved away from the area, and watch Leamington occasionally now. Again, the attitudes of fans and players are very different to what you see on TV in my experience. I daresay you could find trouble on the terraces, but trouble has never come looking for me, home or away with Guiseley. And since we used to use Guiseley away trips to places like Whitby and Kendal as an annual p*ss up, I'm sure we attracted enough attention. Our presence (not to mention bar takings) was always welcomed and we always behaved in a fashion best described as silly and had a good laugh with the locals.

My last several visits to top-level football were sometimes fine, but sometimes unpleasant. I was put off Elland Road by being there on the day of the Hillsborough disaster. At half time it was announced that the semi final had been abandoned and there had been fatalities in the crowd. Those who cheered were a minority I suppose, but it was not a small number. I'm sure my experiences would have been similar at many grounds around the country that day. To be fair, that was a low point, but I've often found the atmosphere at grounds I've been to (Leeds, Sheff Utd, Man City, Everton, Villa mostly) unpleasant. Not always, or I would have stopped going sooner, but often enough.

However, "football" or "society" can go on the register of things, along with the police and stewards that anybody involved in hideous chanting, vandalism and violence don't get to blame for their actions. They're (mostly) supposed to be adults, they can be responsible for what they do and say.

I'm stgill sticking to RL. The product and the behaviour both on and off the field is not perfect (noted Tad) but it is, in my opinion, far, far better if you're comparing the elite levels of the two sports.

From what I've heard both sets of fans were singing provocative and insulting things. Thats football for you. There is banter and stuff at Rugby, but not at that level. Whatever the atmosphere though there is no excuse for going onto the pitch and assaulting a player. The guy should be locked up for a bit, and I think both clubs need to look at some of their policies in this area

Leeds fans the only ones singing during the George Best minute silence, even the scousers respected it, always thought the LUFC fans have been a bit classless, surprising though that a team only a few miles up the road (yourselves) have always imo been very good.

I don't know that anyone is taking any moral high ground, just pointing out that to cheat the referee is almost part of the rules of the game of professional football and if we picked any video of any match played in the last ten years then we'd be able to point to examples, together with the faking injury examples.

Its a corrupt game played by cheats, and called "The Beautiful Game" by a press that rely on it to fill at least six back pages every day.

I think that whilst there is undoubtedly cheating in games (ball ripping, deliberate high shots, facials etc), I don't think these events have a game defining impact. You don't get players acting to get other players sent off. You don't really get people cheating to get tries or penalties. Obviously there are exceptions but the problem is much worse in football than anything else

Leeds United fan Aaron Cawley has been jailed for four months after pleading guilty to assaulting Sheffield Wednesday goalkeeper Chris Kirkland.
Prosecutor Paul Macaulay said Cawley told police he had drunk several cans of Stella Artois on Friday morning, three-quarters of a litre of vodka and a further seven to 10 pints of cider after arriving in Sheffield.
Cawley, 21, from Cheltenham, appeared at Sheffield Magistrates' Court and pleaded guilty to assault and invading the pitch during a highly-charged game at Hillsborough, which ended 1-1. The court heard he had been the subject of two football banning orders in the past, which he had breached four times.

I am surprised he was able to walk after that amount of alchol consumption.

Not only that but he can afford to do it all whilst being on the dole

I suspect a combination of the circumstances in which trhe push was administered (being on the field of play is an offence in the first place) and the fact that he had previously breached his banning orders on multiple occasions might have forced the judge's hand a bit.

I agree that the Mail/Express reading masses are too quick to call for jail, but in this case it seems most other options have been exhausted doesn't it?

The breach of his banning order will have been the final straw as far as the judge was concerned . Obviously the courts take a dim view of anybody ignoring the courts orders.

And going on facebook or whatever and boasting about the incident won't have helped. Courts like remorse.

It's all about which side of the river you're from. Them southerners are a different breed.

Not a bad result for the lad , with time off for a guilty plea should be out for the Boxing day game

how does someone with a banning order get an away ticket from Elland Road, I thought they were restricted to members only. Has papa smurf changed the rules ?

Got a friend to buy it for him?

You do, but very few clubs actually check the membership card and the match ticket to see if the names match. It'd only be at clubs that are forced to (ie, Millwall) where he'd be likely to be noticed.

He was apparently arrested last time he breached his order with a match ticket for Coventry and his mate's membership card.

He claimed he was off to a shopping centre in Birmingham.... with a rail ticket for travel to Coventry. Which is either 2 or 5 stops before Birmingham depending on which train you're on.

He should have been imprisoned then for the worst cover story of all time.