I said he was average, ok, no better than anything we have now. And that he handed wakefield a try on a plate. The fact I'm not jumping around after one game and proclaiming him as the answer at LC doesn't make me an idiot. Ablett is, right now, a far better centre, and so is Delaney.

In future, do yourself a favour and read a post before jumping on the bandwagon with the other numbskulls on here.

How do you know that after 55 minutes of Rugby, playing in a side that collectively looked poor?

I think we all read the post, Thats the reason your copping for loads. It clearly shows that you know as much about rugby league as you do about hitting that god awful drum of yours.

Ps if you insist on taking that drum with you, get there early so we can see you and stand elsewhere, plus id loose the gloves aswell it's not a good look at all.

If Ablett is still injured for the next game then I say give Keinhorst a chance to start. Delaney will probably be fit but last night showed he's much more needed in the second row than in centre.

I'd be tempted to keep him on the bench for the KR game and then, if he's still doing well, give him a start against what should be easier opposition v Widnes.

Well, your post points to the contrary. I say Keinhorst is no better than current options (despite insistences to the contrary from other posters), and that he handed Wakey a try. Response seems to suggest I'd said he should never play for the club again.

If you don't like the drum and just want to watch the game, stand somewhere else.

You've not offered us one of your scintillating lists for quite some time

Fatal last words.......but would agree if Ablett returns to fitness.

Keinhorst should start before Delaney does in the LC position; as Printer states he is BADLY needed in the forwards.

We'd been stood in the ground a good 45 mins before you turned up with that thing, Why the hell should we have to move. You should do the right thing and leave the bloody thing at home where you bash to your hearts content.
I dont think it would be problem if you knew how to use it, My 18 month old duaghter plays the drum better than you.

Chief, you need to calm down. If you want to spurt your opinions on a messageboard that is absolutely fine, heck! I welcome it. Everyone has the right to post opinions on a wide spectrum of discusions and at times folk will not agree with another, maybe due to other outside influences or through not been able to see both sides of the discusion.

In this case, myself after reading weeks of threads, lists and comments from yourself, with you screaming for change, the binning of great servants to this club and various other wild, sometimes fancifull appointments and signings have come to a descision myself, not coloured by anyone else or other agendas ,have formed an opinion of your posts and i have chosen to articulate them. If you have an opinion and you chose to share it, dont be angry or surprised if someone doesnt share it and heaven forbid decides to challenge it.

I am not part of any clique or group, although i do know a few of the lads and lasses from various social groups who go to games and top folk they are too, believe it or not i have actually stood near you and your mates during a few games and i have had a great time. I do not jump on bandwaggons and sure as spit dont need to either, nordo i need to brand folk with a different view as mine as numbskulls.

Good thread this.

Thought he did well considering it was his first superleague experience. Looked strong and tackled hard. Didn't see much of him attack wise but would think he is worth another appearance based on last nights display. I would imagine his physique and speed aren't gonna change much as he's 22 years old. A new gym regime and a few special shakes may add a bit more bulk but he seemed able to handle the physical aspect, gametime would give him the experience that would deem him up to the task or not.

I went into the ground an hour before kickoff. If you went in stupidly early, well done you.

I use the trum to keep the rhythm of the chants up so that people who are further than 30 feet away can hear it & keep up, which tends to be why chants die. I've said before, and will say again, I'm happy to try and support anything people want to get going. I wish some others would show the same attitude.

As for 'dropping club servants' and making lists, forgive me for pointing out available players who would improve the squad, and pointing out that some players have been underperforming. I thought JP was ace yesterday, and has been for the past three weeks. But before that, he had been poor. I'm happy he's playing better now.

As for 'screaming for change', I think you're getting myself & NE confused.

I'd second that

Aye.

I know this is off topic but while we're on the topic...

Why does someone feel they have the right to subject others to something they insist on doing?

Taking a drum to a game falls into the same category as someone smoking in a bus queue or someone on a train forcing the rest of the carriage to listen whatever crap music they play through their phone.

Was a poll taken or any consensus on the acceptability of having a badly played drum in the designated away stand?

I don't go in the South Stand at HQ partially because of the band but I don't really have much choice when going to away games and to be subjected to an out-of-time drum is, frankly, rude.

If you think you can do better, get your own damn drum.

As is, it's only out of time if you're one of the half-brained group that insists on singing every song at half pace, and mixing one song no-one knows the words to with an incredibly witty and stirring number about one of our forwards' genitalia. The same group who spent the 2nd half of Huddersfield away in 2010 abusing our own fans, and refuse to join in any chant they don't start.

I can do better - much better, I play the drums and I have my own kit and everything. I wouldn't dream of taking them to a game though.

Just imagine if everyone had your mentality - the terraces would be full of people badly playing whatever instrument they felt they wanted have a go at.

Oh and FYI - I don't stand with a group at away matches. Just me and the missus. But if there is a group of half-brained that insist on singing chants at half pace, I'd rather hear that than a drum that is out of time with them.

Anyway who made you God of the terrace chants?

Just because you take a drum to away games doesn't make you special... oh hang on... yes it does, it make you very 'special'.

He is like the pied piper of the fecktards. If he was banging his drum on the streets, they would follow.

How far do you take your theory?

I sit in the North Stand. A couple of rows behind me are a few fekkwits with no clue about the game. Should I insist they either get educated before sitting near me or watch the game with their mouth shut?

Why must they try and force their stupidity upon me.

People come with stupidity built in (and also with a mouth to exercise their stupidity) - if they were perfectly normal un-stupid people but had a big box of stupidity that they brought with them and then proceeded to sporadically ladle it onto the people around them then you would have the opportunity to relieve them of said stupidity.

Are you suggesting Tykes/Rhinos number 1 fan is usually not very annoying but the drum causes the annoyance?

I have not met the man behind the gloves in person but I believe that if you removed his drum he would be far less annoying.

Have you unleashed a nearby, heavily impacting, too close, box of stupidity ?

Fat Boy-if you just want to stand and watch the game, you can do that from any part of the ground, and with a better view than from where we were standing.