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| Doesn't look like many people agree that we have problems.
I'm not sure I like the comment about the jury system. What is that supposed to mean?
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Loving this mate! For me from this day forward he shall now been know as Beastwood!
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"Doesn't look like many people agree that we have problems.
I'm not sure I like the comment about the jury system. What is that supposed to mean?'" Of course there are some problems and areas to work on, different parts of the game and players we debate as fans! you will find difference of opinion on here after most games! But that is different from some numb nuts crying crisis after every game.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"Mcguires passing is crisper, mcguire can put a man through the gap which he has added to his game. Mcguire attacks the line, beats players and makes brakes. burrows passing seems in effective, he doesn't beat the man and unlike mcguire burrow doesn't really have an off load. the kicks for the trys are important as you say. but I think we need more from burrow as our 7 with ball in hand and running play. I think rob hasn't been at his best since 07 we see glimpses but nothing to suggest he
is a better player, where mcguire improves as a player every season that's where my comments come from. I love burrow as a player and I want him to become the best 7 in the comp again but for me it's just not happening for rob!
Re mcguire and dropping the bomb. mcguire is probably the most safe player we have taking the high ball! He does it all night every game from the kick off, he catches running bombs on the move re the Catalan try. everyone makes mistakes I think it's unfair to hammer mcguire for one, IMO it wasn't even mcguires ball to take Webb as the fullback should have bossed the situation. But it was a daft try to conced. A bit of a comedy of errors. as you say we all see the game different'"
I am sorry but none of that bear scrutiny to what actually happens on the field.
If you can't remember Burrow showing great form since 07 pop in a DVD of the 2009 Grand Final.
Burrow isn't sharp yet, but when discussing last nights' performances I have highlighted that Burrow was involved in creating three of our four tries. McGuire was involved in creating one for Salford (not to mention the one he created for Wakefield last week).
Like I say, the above post may be your opinion but I am afraid, with respect, it is not based upon what is [iactually[/i happening on the field of play.
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| Numb nut? Is that directed at me?
I have a right to voice my opinion if I'm not happy with the way our club is going. We've gone backwards since last year when we should be kicking on.
It happened in 2000 and it's happening again.
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| Quote ="G1"I am sorry but none of that bear scrutiny to what actually happens on the field.
If you can't remember Burrow showing great form since 07 pop in a DVD of the 2009 Grand Final.
Burrow isn't sharp yet, but when discussing last nights' performances I have highlighted that Burrow was involved in creating three of our four tries. McGuire was involved in creating one for Salford (not to mention the one he created for Wakefield last week).
Like I say, the above post may be your opinion but I am afraid, with respect, it is not based upon what is [iactually[/i happening on the field of play.'" fair enough I respect your opinion we are defo gonna agree to disagree here, but I didn't mean to come across saying burrow hasn't played well at all since 07. He has, I did say I had seen glimpses of that player and as you highlighted the 09 gf is on of a number of games where burrow has be awesome. I just don't think he delivers as much as the other play makers In the team week in week out. for Long periods of 08,09 burrow to me and others I know seemed out of sorts. there is no one who will be buzzing more than me when rob is out there all guns blazing. I was maybe just hoping for more after him having and injury free full preseason.
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| Fair enough Wilko. I just thought that last night he was the best of the three and that doesn't seem to have been reflected in what people have been posting.
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| Quote ="G1"So its' just his support play then? No mention of the two tries he created with kicks and the other he had a hand in?'"
No that's just one area that stood out for me mate,his confidence looks pretty low and some of his kicking along with Sinfield and Mcguire is poor.
I thought it was Sinfield who had kicked for Seniors 2nd try so apologies there and his pass for the 1st try should be as good as that throughout the game imo which at the moment it isn't.
Don't get me wrong i'm not saying he should be dropped he just looks more out of touch and lower on confidence than the rest of our pivots although all need to improve a lot.
It's a team thing i agree but Robbie seems to have lost more of his mojo at this moment in time which of course is just my opinion.
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| Well I guess I will just have to respect the opinions of those of you criticising Burrow, even though you're all wrong and I am right.
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"I'm sure most things will click. I'd like to see Burgess be part of this rotation, he's only played once this season hasn't he? How do you think they'll work the wingers and centres next week if donald is out?'"
I agree.
I'm not sure if Burgess has a niggle or is simply out of favour at the moment.
On current form I'd have him in the 17 at the expense of Kirke.
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| Quote ="G1"Really? Other than gifting =#FF0000Broughton his try what did McGuire do?
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| Just seen an interview with Brian Mclennan on Sky.
He agrees with me so looks like those who are saying nothings wrong, are wrong.
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"Just seen an interview with Brian Mclennan on Sky.
He agrees with me so looks like those who are saying nothings wrong, are wrong.'"
So he agrees he's not up to the job,wholesale changes are needed and until there's a massive improvement he won't be attending again either???
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"Just seen an interview with Brian Mclennan on Sky.
He agrees with me so looks like those who are saying nothings wrong, are wrong.'"
Not one person has said that we are playing well and that there is nothing wrong. HTH
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| He agrees that there are problems.
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"He agrees that there are problems.'"
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| Quote ="Sibbs Rhinos"I'd have better luck talking to a brick wall.'"
Shouldn't Brick of been spelt with a P
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| Wow. We beat Salford, the problems must all be sorted out now.
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| Just because you've got all those posts it doesn't give you the right to abuse people. It's a bit sad really that you can't have much of a life if you have all those posts.
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"Just because you've got all those posts it doesn't give you the right to abuse people. It's a bit sad really that you can't have much of a life if you have all those posts.'"
Every opinion you post is an exact replica of Ramrod we know yer a troll,you know it so why continue with it??
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| What is it with people around here? Why can I just not post my opinions without either being abused or accused?
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"What is it with people around here? Why can I just not post my opinions without either being abused or accused?'"
Because your opinions are a beyond that of a normal persons.
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| Quote ="G1"Really? Other than gifting Broughton his try what did McGuire do?
Other than having a hand/foot in 3 of our 4 tries what did Burrow do wrong?'"
having watched the trys tonight - Burrow's involvement in the first try was hardly an assist - true his kick created the second and he had no hand in either of the last two and his rush out of the line left a massive hole for Salford to run through for their first try
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"having watched the trys tonight - Burrow's involvement in the first try was hardly an assist - true his kick created the second and he had no hand in either of the last two and his rush out of the line left a massive hole for Salford to run through for their first try'"
He gave a lovely short ball to put JJB away, something Wilko says McGuire does better (though there was no evidence of it last night).
I accept he didn't put the kick up for Senior's try, that was SInfield. I couldn't recall and the match report on the official site credited it to Burrow.
So, he only had a hand it 50% of the tries.
This is not a dig at McGuire but given that everyone is critical of Rob and not him from last nights' game (myself aside), just what, other than gifting Broughton a walk in, did McGuire do?
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