MOS is voted for by the players, that's the difference.

I wouldn't be bothered about a leeds player winning it.

Leeds are a very good unit and don't rely on any one player especially.

Graham should win it, that way during half time when Leeds are handing Saints another GF defeat I can sit back, watch the Ginger Blubber Cry Baby running the ball in for the 80th time/game in order for his Opta stats to look good.

I should imagine quite a lot of players have voted for Graham and has more respect from them than some of the fans on here. The opposition have tried to knock him off his perch, game etc. But despite his sulkiness he,s had to play front out prop in almost every game. Morley and Peacock have had the benefit of help from their fellow props, Graham has not had this advantage which makes it more remarkable what he has achieved......mind you he is the current man of steel.

I bet JP didn't vote for him.

I can't work out want Saints fans really think... On the one hand Leeds players are the dirtiest to ever play the game and all should be banned, etc. On the other hand they're saying that Graham should get a bit fighty and that Soliola is going to sort out Senior next year.

Make your minds up! Either a bit of biff is OK or not - you lot can't have it both ways.

Anyway, back on topic - I reckon Senior has been robbed to not be on the shortlist.

Moz gets the award for me,if that fat ginner wins it this year then it will
de-value all the future winners of this award,he's a workhorse granted,but it will be a sad day when a proven soft cock wins M.O.S.
who knows,dale winton and michael barrymore might be up for the award this time next season

where is the proof?

The granny in the infamous utube vid told him.

winton's not signing for saints unless graham wins M.O.S

You fools are so deluded. Saints have a one man pack. The one man does all the work simply to improve his OPTA stats. He's a wimp and a softcock.

Yet Saints are second in the league and knocked the mighty Leeds out of the Cup. Figure that one out.

Do you not think that, perhaps, the effort and commitment Graham displays is worthy of recognition and praise? Do you not think that if it was easy to make 5,000 metres in a season other players would do it? Would Celtic players not try it, or Salford players?

Fools. Graham cannot be a 'softcock' or a poor player if he is capable of going back again, and again and again and again and again. In Super League that amounts to an almost impossible task and he is the only prop who has ever come close to it. Compare him to Kylie and Ryan and their 40 metres a game and tell me he's not worthy of an award.

And to top off just how outstanding a player he is, look at the number of posts he generates. You don't create posts about Bryn Hargreaves or Jake Emmit or Mitchell Sargeant or Paul Wood. Only good players are hated and given how much the Leeds fans talk about him one can only conclude that he's one of the best players in the country, if not the best one.

You guys must be blind, seriously.

You fools are so deluded. Saints have a one man pack. The one man does all the work simply to improve his OPTA stats. He's a wimp and a softcock.

Yet Saints are second in the league and knocked the mighty Leeds out of the Cup. Figure that one out.

Do you not think that, perhaps, the effort and commitment Graham displays is worthy of recognition and praise? Do you not think that if it was easy to make 5,000 metres in a season other players would do it? Would Celtic players not try it, or Salford players?

Fools. Graham cannot be a 'softcock' or a poor player if he is capable of going back again, and again and again and again and again. In Super League that amounts to an almost impossible task and he is the only prop who has ever come close to it. Compare him to Kylie and Ryan and their 40 metres a game and tell me he's not worthy of an award.

And to top off just how outstanding a player he is, look at the number of posts he generates. You don't create posts about Bryn Hargreaves or Jake Emmit or Mitchell Sargeant or Paul Wood. Only good players are hated and given how much the Leeds fans talk about him one can only conclude that he's one of the best players in the country, if not the best one.

Do you have a tattoo of his face on your chest?

Whilst i agree with your post, was there really a need to post it twice?

Arthur Clues is laughing upstairs at James Graham

Obsessed

They are welcome to a man of steel,would much rather have a team of silver(ware)

GTFO.

Now I rate Graham but the bold bit is lame.

Your talking about workrate and then conveniently forget that Leeds have a prop who's been at the top of the game for, what, 10 years now?

Here's some clues he's captain of his country, the best prop in SL, (regardless of any award nominations) and he's this years 2nd highest meter maker and gets through a damn sight more defensive work than Graham

Oh and also the bit about Celtic and Salford players not trying to make 5000 meters...I doubt Graham (again I remind you a player I rate) would make 3000 meters playing for either of those sides...he'd have to increase his defensive workload though - ask Malcolm Alker!

That's right you base your opinion on Peacock on whether he makes a top 3 shortlist in an award...

... meanwhile those of us with our own eyes and a brain to form our own opinions will base it on what he does on the pitch

I can see where you are coming from your blinkered minority viewpoint, but surely the short list voted by the players are the best to judge.

It would be nice but I don't think Hall will get a look in for young player.It will be between Myler and Tomkins surely?

As opposed to the last time they did that and Roby was drawn out of the hat

Graham's a very good prop, but what's needed against Aus/NZ is real quality - aggression, power and ability to read the game - as well as an engine. When I watched GB vs Aus in Brisbane a few years ago, the metres made by the forwards may have read very nicely, but the QUALITY of Morley's work both with and without the ball was way ahead of the rest. Realistically he was the only GB forward who wouldn't have looked out of place in the green and gold.

The metres made stat is interesting, but only useful to compare 'workhorse' forwards. It can also be inflated in a number of ways - if a forward is the standard kick-off receiver he'll generally make 20+ yards every time his team receives the kick off (at 4 kick off returns per game that's a nice 80m gain for 4 drives before you start adding anything else), or if he simply plays more minutes. What the stats show is that neither Peacock or Graham are 'impact' forwards - but every team needs that sort off forward as well.

Having said that, I do respect players' opinions. If his peers rate Graham the best prop in SL, who are we to argue? Or is it simply that players admire hard graft more than anything else?

As for young player, I'd be stunned if Hall won it.

ryan bailey is the best prop in the world judging by the posts created about him.
ps he also owns FGB and mary