Which people and how well did they know him?

If Smith is less Charismatic in a public arena should he be less liked, despite achieving more success than someone more outgoing?

Frankly, I couldn't care if he was a personality-less, foul mouthed, obnoxious bigot. I am not being invited to his dinner parties, nor Murray. I am an avid fan of the team he is being paid to coach.

As I said, I accept more Leeds fans liked Murray. I'll accept that is because he may have been more like-able. That doesn't alter my statement that its' a sad indictment of our fans.

They were. They were far less successful than Smith's four years.

It remains a sad indictment that people like him more than Smith.

Oh David, just stop making yourself look more, & more stupid

I just knew YOU would reply to Tony Smith FFS.

Why, oh why can you just not take the fact that Tony Smith made you look a complete & utter TW^T ??



A few facts Davy boy - Tony Smith, as Coach, was the most successful Leeds Coach EVER. The Players thought he was superb. The fans, except you to$$er, thought he was great too.

SO get lost David

Get a life, move on & "support" someone else. Get a hobby maybe

PS learn how to spell !!!!

i don't think they do hari, only really gareth and danny who stuck up for him on here!

Not all players said otherwise also - especially when they were collecting trophies & counting their pay packets !!

Some people are just jealous of success - they have never tasted it like us at the Bulls

Quite right. The "fans" were calling for Smith's head just a month or so before he brought an unprecedented 2nd title as Leeds coach.

Because you know sweet FA baby - go on, name someone IF you are so clever

Why don't you like tony smith ER????????????

Appreciate that he won the big matches with Leeds, but I saw them lose plenty with him in charge. The Warrington home playoff match springs to mind as embarassing.

I dont like him. I never liked him. Whether that makes me a Leeds fekwit according to gareth, I dont care. Cant stick the bloke.*

[size=59*Tony Smith that is, not Gareth. Gareth is alright!![/size

Never said that they did!!!

I think you're a bit of allright an'all Emma. Just don't tell Danny. Oh, you didn;t mean that. I see. Move on.

Anyway, back on topic.

Having watched Leeds since the early 1980's I'd love Adolf Hitler if he'd have been our coach in 2004.

They both ended with close on identical points percentages with one winning a Challenge Cup and the other two Grand Finals in twice the time available.

Pretty similar records all in all. I liked them both for what they did for Leeds, which was to bring credibility back to pretty much the biggest chokers and under achievers in professional sport.

Quite a few fans turned up to witness his Team's cup wins Cala mate

Anyway, why should me, a Bulls fan who knows about winnig cups, stick up for a whinos coach ?

Unbiased me matey

zzzzzzzzzzz who gives a ....

I also watched Leeds from the early 80, well mid anyway. I have seen some shower play for Leeds, and I do appreciate that we have had some arrogant coaches as well.
Maybe we were spoilt cos Muzza was such a 'people person,' with fans and seemingly with the players.

BTW - my definition of a good coach is being able to get the best out of all his players. Didn't Murray do this????

You might support some crappy grass roots team who have a poor set of players who are never going to win anything, but they have a great coach who recognise where each player needs to improve and gets the best out of each player. They are not going to win anything, but it doesn't mean he isn't a good coach.

Me too which is why I say Paul Deacon and Steve McNamara need sacking.

nah, they were all the ts!

No more embarassing then losing to cas at home in the play-offs


I must admit i'm surprised how many people i've spoke to who agree with you emm i personally thought he was sound as a bloke to talk to and a legend as a coach,i was worried he would be hounded out early when we hit that slump in 07 but he and the team turned it around to bring home the big one.

i liked murray because he had a pack that knocked the sh*t out of everything that moved!

Going by some of the posts about Smith on here, you'd have thought Smith WAS Adolf Hitler

The head-hunters








Remember dean sampson tad???

Except the Wigan pack in the 98 GF, or the Cas pack in the 98 Cup, or the cas pack in the 98 playoffs.

I liked Murray. I really liked Murray.

He couldn't win the big one though. Never has.

Smith can.

Maybe you need to be more than a "nice guy" to win the big prize.

i liked murray we got our first trophy after years of nothing.
smith well goes without saying two super league trophies and we are not being called under achievers any more

The Lost Loiners once played against a team that had Dean Sampson in it.

One of the LL said "Dont be scared of him, front up to him, get in front of him" as we lined up to face one of his runs.

Two seconds later the said LL player was smashed out of the way, laid on the floor with no front teeth.







"Front up to him, get in front of him, dont be scared", we said!