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| Quote ="craigizzard"And now the RFL have responded to the Leeds statement by "declining to comment on an active investigation".
Precisely the opposite of what they did yesterday.'"
"declining to comment on an active investigation"
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| Quote ="craigizzard"And now the RFL have responded to the Leeds statement by "declining to comment on an active investigation".
Precisely the opposite of what they did yesterday.'"
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| [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2xlQaimsGgLeeds witch hunt LATEST - Silverwood is made of wood![/url
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| Quote ="William Eve"[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2xlQaimsGgLeeds witch hunt LATEST - Silverwood is made of wood![/url'"
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| Quote ="illy"The people who are slating Silverwood have you ever thought that during the match he heard something and thought rubbish that's not important and hence why he did not report anything.'"
Then he's not doing his job properly and should be reprimanded.
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Then he's not doing his job properly and should be reprimanded.'"
the match commisionner told the press silverwood never heard anything/
silverwood put in his report he did
someones telling fibs
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| A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?
People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.
The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Some of the obscenities that are now being used on various social media forums FB in particular describing Hardaker is absolutely vile.'"
Exactly but these type of people can not see the irony in the abuse they are giving out, our game will never be big and does not deserve to be with the hate filled fans the game has. This whole thing is completely turning me and probably many others away from the game.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?
People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.
The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.'"
If hardaker gets banned I will never attend an RL game ever again, this whole thing stinks. The game deserves to die after the RFL handling of this and the vile attitude of so called fans.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?
People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.
The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.'"
If hardaker is banned I will desert the game completley.
The governing body of this sport is a complete disgrace.
Don't think hardaker will be in this sport much longer, not in this country at least. No one should have to put up with this crap. He could earn a packet in union, or enjoy better weather and more money down under.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"If hardaker gets banned I will never attend an RL game ever again, this whole thing stinks. The game deserves to die after the RFL handling of this and the vile attitude of so called fans.'"
Quote ="FlexWheeler"If hardaker is banned I will desert the game completley.
The governing body of this sport is a complete disgrace.'"
I agree the RFL look amateurish yet again.
However, IF Hardaker did say it then why would you have a problem with him being banned? Would it be because of how the RFL have gone about it or simply the fact he has been banned for using that language?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I agree the RFL look amateurish yet again.
However, IF Hardaker did say it then why would you have a problem with him being banned? Would it be because of how the RFL have gone about it or simply the fact he has been banned for using that language?'"
Because of how it's all come about. I had no issue with the ban before.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?
People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.
The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.'"
That's the problem now though as a guilty verdict is seriously flawed.
The tv clip/lip reading was never going to be concrete enough for them to ban him. And the RFL won't want to be accused of condoning homophobic abuse so it's in their best interests to find him guilty.
So to add weight to their case an admission several days later that their employee Silverwood heard something after all.
The ear-witness is firstly, employed by the 'prosecuting party' and he's also performed a bit of a U-turn which compromises his evidence massively IMO.
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| [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfHEEFqLRYsIf Hardaker is banned again... I'll...[/url
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?
People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.
The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.'"
I answered this already. If he is found guilty by some fair and reasonable process then I would not have a problem with a ban.
I do have a problem with his guilt being presumed, albeit by a baying twitter mob of the clueless, and I have a big problem with the RFL naming him without any charge. That is wrong. To follow that up with a prissy statement about not commenting on the investigation is just ridiculous. Horse. Bolted. Stable door.
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| If he is banned I will show my in The Viaduct
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| Can't argue with any of that.
In all of this I do feel a bit sorry for Hardaker I must admit. He's a fantastic player, the best full back in England and pushing Tomkins very close too.
I don't believe for one minute he is a homophobe, he has simply had one or two "brain-farts" that may end up landing him in hot water. It's unfortunate and the whole situation is looking quite messy at the moment.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"I agree the RFL look amateurish yet again.
However, IF Hardaker did say it then why would you have a problem with him being banned? Would it be because of how the RFL have gone about it or simply the fact he has been banned for using that language?'"
I'm shocked they cant see your question!
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"If hardaker gets banned I will never attend an RL game ever again, this whole thing stinks. The game deserves to die after the RFL handling of this and the vile attitude of so called fans.'"
You missed giraffes question
If hes banned cos he said it, you'd not be happy.
So you condone it?
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"A genuine question for you Leeds fans - if Hardaker is found guilty of saying "fu**ing puff," whether that be by his own admission, a lip reader or evidence submitted by Silverwood and/or Saints players, then would anyone have any complaints with a ban?
People seem to be focussing more on the process that the RFL have taken as opposed to what Hardaker is being accused of doing.
The RFL haven't covered themselves in glory with the way they have acted here but it's a means to an end in a way. If Hardaker is guilty of saying "fu**ing puff" then he deserves to be banned, simple as that.'"
Really??? Call someone a c*nt, fanny, prick, dick, knob, bast*rd, tw*t, ars*hole, sh*thead, or cock and not even the merest hint of being mentioned in the ref's report but call someone a puff and the world is up in arms.
What is this sport coming to?
I grew up with the ethos "stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me", nowadays it's "stick and stones may break my bones but words will get me in a lot deeper sh*t".
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Can't argue with any of that.
In all of this I do feel a bit sorry for Hardaker I must admit. He's a fantastic player, the best full back in England and pushing Tomkins very close too.
I don't believe for one minute he is a homophobe, he has simply had one or two "brain-farts" that may end up landing him in hot water. It's unfortunate and the whole situation is looking quite messy at the moment.'"
Some brain farts start wars, these may cost the game ££££ in sponsorship
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| Quote ="Fat Boy"Really??? Call someone a c*nt, fanny, prick, dick, knob, bast*rd, tw*t, ars*hole, sh*thead, or cock and not even the merest hint of being mentioned in the ref's report but call someone a puff and the world is up in arms.
What is this sport coming to?
I grew up with the ethos "stick and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me", nowadays it's "stick and stones may break my bones but words will get me in a lot deeper sh*t".'"
Been posted before on this thread, homophobia is now on a par with racism.
Condone that too?
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"You missed giraffes question
If hes banned cos he said it, you'd not be happy.
So you condone it?'"
But the problem is now, will he be banned because he genuinely did say it, or because Hardaker being guilty is the best result for the RFL.
For me, a guilty verdict is already comprised so I'd have mixed feelings towards it. Nothing to do with condoning it, more because I now think the investigation is only interested in getting one certain result so I still wouldn't be certain he actually said it.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"But the problem is now, will he be banned because he genuinely did say it, or because Hardaker being guilty is the best result for the RFL.
For me, a guilty verdict is already comprised so I'd have mixed feelings towards it. Nothing to do with condoning it, more because I now think the investigation is only interested in getting one certain result so I still wouldn't be certain he actually said it.'"
To be fair you have a point, to an extent.
What about Suarez in the World cup. Was it a bite, well the answer is, its the 3rd time hes done it.
I'd say the RFL know why ZH was booted from the World Cup squad, was it just a "booze up" with Hock?
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