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| Whoever gets it I bet they wouldnt spend a day in the short Easter turnaround period profiting by working for Sky. I betcha.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"He's been out of the game for far too long - which in itself tells you something.
Hetherington is not stupid and knows what will happen if he unveils someone as underwhelming as Anderson.'"
Hasn’t he been coaching and/or in charge of performance of the England Knights last couple of years??
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Whoever gets it I bet they wouldnt spend a day in the short Easter turnaround period profiting by working for Sky. I betcha.'"
To be fair that was contracted before he took this temporary role on
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Hasn’t he been coaching and/or in charge of performance of the England Knights last couple of years??'"
The full England team barely play let alone the knights. He's been out of the game in the sense of a role that would be relevant
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| Quote ="Seth"To be fair that was contracted before he took this temporary role on'"
You think Sky would hold him to it if he asked for a few week break? Its not a good look when weve 2 games in 4 days for him to be sitting there taking snide comments from Carney.
The fact is when JJB talks about religion his real religion is money.
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| Interesting bit from the YEP article
“ That was a very productive and useful exercise, but there’s also candidates here as well who I met before I went away”
So all the moaning on here about him not doing anything before going to aus was a bit misplaced
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| Quote ="christopher"Interesting bit from the YEP article
“ That was a very productive and useful exercise, but there’s also candidates here as well who I met before I went away”
So all the moaning on here about him not doing anything before going to aus was a bit misplaced
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Do you believe everything you read in the papers Chris? The one thing Gary hates is criticism.
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| Quote ="christopher"Interesting bit from the YEP article
“ That was a very productive and useful exercise, but there’s also candidates here as well who I met before I went away”
So all the moaning on here about him not doing anything before going to aus was a bit misplaced
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Also mentions that role requires a good deal of experience and seniority. Surely that hints at previous head coach experience at
a big club. NRL wise only Morris, Flanagan and Siebold would really tick that box. Over here - I just don't know other than Tony Smith.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"Do you believe everything you read in the papers Chris? The one thing Gary hates is criticism.'"
No, but neither do i believe everything written on internet forums or Twitter
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| Quote ="christopher"No, but neither do i believe everything written on internet forums or Twitter
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| The Mole has again ruled Flanagan out saying he doesn't want the job.
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| After going round in circles on who i want, im settled on Tony Smith, be a challenge getting him to join immediately, but dont think it would be impossible if we really wanted him.
Love the thought of getting the next hotshot coach from NRL assistant ranks, but in our current predicament, the safest bet could be the best bet, thats Smith for me.
At the stage now that if its not Smith, il be disapointed.
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| never go back.
sure thats what smith will be thinking. no pressure at rovers and looks settled and happy.
besides, he wont be the cheap option. and that worries me greatly.
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| This stuff about the cheap option puzzles me. Hetherington always drives a hard bargain but he's never really skimped on head coaches when needed - when they brought in Mclennan, Sinfield, Furner these were all very expensive decisions.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"never go back.
sure thats what smith will be thinking. no pressure at rovers and looks settled and happy.
besides, he wont be the cheap option. and that worries me greatly.'"
Can't see Smith walking out on KR. I also think the never go back thing works both ways too.....
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| Smith’s not going to come back, why would he?
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| I've no idea why Smith would want to come back now. When he was between jobs obviously he was interested, but it seems to be going very well at KR. He's got a team playing close to their best and everyone seeming to enjoy what they're doing.
Why come to the basket-case that is Leeds, where there's nothing but hard slog and even harder decisions to make to turn us around? That includes pushing a number of players and staff out of the club, which is always difficult for anyone with an ounce of empathy. Not to mention that if he never comes back he'll always be the coach who turned us into winners and kick-started the Golden Generation. Come back and fail and that will take some shine off his legacy with Leeds.
If I were Smith I'd not even think about it. Size of the club etc be damned.
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| Quote ="christopher"Smith’s not going to come back, why would he?'"
Because we're a massive club, and if we started acting like one again, we would very possibly be too tempting to turn down. Unfortunately, we rarely act like a big club anymore, so your right, he probably wouldnt be tempted. He's who id be trying for if i was GH though.
People say theres no pressure at HKR, is there really that much here anymore, the expectation of the fanbase is at an all time low, finish top 5 every other season and avoid a relegation scrap in the others and the fanbase would be giddy. We'r arguably the biggest club in the country, but theres plenty that were happy enough with the 5 year rebuild thats just fell to bits, every year it was one more year until we'r ready to make our run, more relegation battles than title challenges.
Id say its an ideal time for a good coach to come in and build something, be that Smith or whoever else.
But again, thats on the prevision we start acting like a big club again, getting this appointment right and backing him with everything he needs.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978" the expectation of the fanbase is at an all time low,'" I agree that Smith would be tempted back because when it comes down to it Leeds is always going to be a better long term bet for winning trophies than Hull KR. But this statement is silly - the club has been in much worse places before now.
Smith won't leave Hull KR mid season but he may decide to return next year because of the the apparent size of the task and the potential if he gets it right. This is a very different challenge to when he came in last time. Sorting Leeds out from where they are now after previously turning around Huddersfield, making Leeds and Warrington winners and now doing what he's done at Hull KR and his reputation and legacy as perhaps the greatest coach in British Rugby League history would be secure.
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| I'd say his legacy is more than secure. Best coach in the game I've spoken to.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"I agree that Smith would be tempted back because when it comes down to it Leeds is always going to be a better long term bet for winning trophies than Hull KR. But this statement is silly - the club has been in much worse places before now.
Smith won't leave Hull KR mid season but he may decide to return next year because of the the apparent size of the task and the potential if he gets it right. This is a very different challenge to when he came in last time. Sorting Leeds out from where they are now after previously turning around Huddersfield, making Leeds and Warrington winners and now doing what he's done at Hull KR and his reputation and legacy as perhaps the greatest coach in British Rugby League history would be secure.'"
The state of the club and the expectation of the fanbase are 2 different things.
Even so,If we'r going back decades, maybe, but thats probably you taking the statement a bit too literal, to paint a clearer picture, its certainly the lowest the fanbase expectation has been in recent history, possibly the last 20 year.
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"The state of the club and the expectation of the fanbase are 2 different things.
Even so,If we'r going back decades, maybe, but thats probably you taking the statement a bit too literal, to paint a clearer picture, its certainly the lowest the fanbase expectation has been in recent history, possibly the last 20 year.'"
I’ve watched since 1972 and can’t think of many times when the level of quality, class and entertainment on the park was as low as it currently is. Early 80’s was pretty poor, 1987 was dire when we stayed up on points difference and 1996 again was grim when GH and Caddick came in. As a result, expectations drift down in line with that, so I generally agree that for Smith or anyone else it’s not a bad time to come in. If these young hopefuls have got it, Smith will get it out.
The current position feels similar to early 80’s to me, then it was Jack Myerscough who had lost his edge, now it’s GH and we seem to be drifting. In 1972 the backs were Holmes, Smith, Hynes, Dyl, Atkinson, Hardisty and Hepworth. Even though a few of those were still around in 1982, you’d pick all 7 from 72 v 82. Feels about the same for 2012 v 2022.
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| The Mole reckons it will be Ryan Carr
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| Quote ="mattsrhinos1978"Because we're a massive club, and if we started acting like one again, we would very possibly be too tempting to turn down. Unfortunately, we rarely act like a big club anymore, so your right, he probably wouldnt be tempted. He's who id be trying for if i was GH though.
People say theres no pressure at HKR, is there really that much here anymore, the expectation of the fanbase is at an all time low, finish top 5 every other season and avoid a relegation scrap in the others and the fanbase would be giddy. We'r arguably the biggest club in the country, but theres plenty that were happy enough with the 5 year rebuild thats just fell to bits, every year it was one more year until we'r ready to make our run, more relegation battles than title challenges.
Id say its an ideal time for a good coach to come in and build something, be that Smith or whoever else.
But again, thats on the prevision we start acting like a big club again, getting this appointment right and backing him with everything he needs.'"
You’re spot on re not acting like a big club anymore.. our standards have most definitely slipped. Time to get back to being a big club again.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"The Mole reckons it will be Ryan Carr'"
It’s looking like it isn’t it.. I’d be happy with that
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