Robert Lui does have that though, lets see what he brings to the team...

I think Myler's performances will be interesting too.

Is relegation a threat now?

I was wondering when that infamous comment would get brought up again!

We can say the dreaded word now it's that real . The club will be already preparing for this disaster. The vultures will already be circling for our players who's heads may already be turned .The nightmare is here .

The R word is definitely one that can be used now and from Agars presser i think the team and management know it.

However I will say with 10 rounds left and bugger all between position 7-12 the league could look a lot different in just a few games time, we could even be 9th by Sunday, if we can string a few wins together the table will take care of itself IMO

I still think (or hope) London may fall off the pace however we cannot rely on other teams losing so the club is right it is in our own hands

You're doomed, I tell you, doomed.

Seriously though, in a few weeks time it wouldn't suprise me to see 4 clubs joint bottom - this season is wierd.

This weekend, we will probably see four clubs joint bottom. So a lot closer than you think. Luckily we will probably be the 9th placed team out of them.

It’s a crazy year this year. Usually there is one clear wooden spoon plonker team by this stage, but only 4 point separates a whole clutch of quite evenly matched sides this year.

It’s anyone’s guess.

I’m still not a fan of P&R but there is no denying this season is giving bags of interest to games at the bottom of the table.

And this is why I'm not a fan of P&R the interest should be who can make the top 5 which is still a lot of teams in the league, technically all of them, yet all the talk is about relegation

I don't think they are evenly matched. Luck plays a part, and other circumstances create the results. In terms of levels, there is still big gaps between some of them.

Hull KR last night, looked equally as bad as they looked last week against London, if not actually worse. One they won against a team somehow fancied (who were absolute terrible), and one they lost against what should be the poorest of the lot.

if you add together the average home crowds for London,salford,Hudds & Wakefield it just about adds up to a Leeds home crowd. Surely the League cannot afford to lose the best supported club, especially with a new TV deal due soon. I recently spoke with an RFL official and asked about a possible rule change if Leeds finished bottom and his reply was "Don't even go there, it doesn't bear thinking about"

Do you need any more salt with that opinion?

We were miles better than at London. Having an actual hooker now makes a big difference. Plus we didn't put up a single bomb last week.

Surely not no matter what the consequences if we finish bottom we must go down .We are unpopular right now for no reason ,we dont want that unpopularity to become a genuine reason

Not too sure why you would stop at 7th when 5th, 6th and 7th are all on 18 points.

We are 4 points off relegation the foot of the table and 2 points off the playoffs - It really is tight this year and a few wins could change everything drastically.

As a fan of a team that is well supported yet perenial strugglers for the last 5 years, trust me when I say that we are enjoying Leeds squirm, after sitting pretty in SL for 20 years. 'How dare they relegate us' is generally how we read the sort of comments above. No player is bigger than the club and no club is bigger than the league.

And yes, we may also still go down, but we're used to the comments and threat.

Sorry but that’s rubbish. Most people on this forum would fully accept relegation as something we deserved if we finish bottom. Your comment says much more about your prejudice than it does about Leeds or its fans.

Nobody at the club is ducking the consequences here.

The original comment was around the revenue loss to the SL, not about Leeds. If you think the premiere competition is somehow enhanced by the best supported and most successful club going down, that’s a triumph in cutting-of-your-noseism.

Sorry but it’s attitudes like yours which drag the whole game down. Having SL as strong as possible is much more important than any petty club tribal rivalries.

Of course Leeds isn’t bigger than the game or SL - who said it was? If we get relegated we’ll take our medicine. The glory supporters will go and there will be a hard core remain, c’est la vie.

You really wasn't. It is amazing what a win does to someones view.

In reality I'm fully expecting Leeds to survive. There are just several Leeds supporters that have shown an umbelievable amount of arrogance over the years - and it is them that stoke the fire. But yes, I did just allow my darker thoughts out for a moment.

It'll be interesting to see if Lunt and Lui have the same level of impact for you on Sunday as Parcell did for us.

So relegation is still not a threat to us. Excellent, no need to worry.

Fair play. I'm pretty much ignoring the Lunt signing but Lui should improve us quite a bit.

The only club I'd have dark thoughts about going down would probably be Wigan, but I wouldn't propose it would be a positive thing for the top flight to lose them either.

We get the fact that fans from most other clubs don't like Leeds, mainly due to jealousy (let's be honest). The truth is that yes we do have lots of arrogant fans, and I have very little patience for the glory supporters who never supported the club properly in the bad old days when we'd get spanked (by Wigan) at most opportunities, or when we had Dean Bell come out of retirement in desperation etc.

I almost prefer supporting the club when it is going through a tough time and having to strive, but I admit I'm strange.

Supporters of all clubs are basically the same. We all have good 'uns, bad 'uns and ugly 'uns.

For the grumpiest man alive, you've got to admire your steadfast view of safety Gotcha.

Hes just not turning hysterical like some of our fans. Relegation is clearly a threat but I believe Gotcha believes, like me, that the team will climb away with the fixtures we have remaining.

There is 10 games to go. A third of a season.

That's exactly it Marty, thanks.

I also don't believe for one minute the game will accept it anyway, but regardless of that, IF Leeds were to finish bottom, with the games we have left, and with the standard of the other teams around us, then let me be clear, we will have without doubt deserved to be relegated.

I'm not so sure about the game not letting it happen to be honest, even as a biased fan I think they'd be mad to keep London up anyway, with the league being so competitive it seems stupid not to take the opportunity to expand to 14.

It will be a real shame for London to put in all this hard work and effort to get relegated on what's looking like the highest points for a relegation side to get.

I am also not getting hysterical about relegation - as said there is 1/3rd of the season to go and the league is very tight a few wins on the spin and everything can change, we also have a pretty favourable run in however I'd be lying to say I'm not worried about it