Having an opinion that you don't agree with doesn't make it sly.

You could start an argument in an empty room.

Ignorant Wigan fans.

So every time he has played he has been one of our better players does not prove consistency at that level?

How strange.

ok I will indulge you for a moment! It was you who brought up alf and sticky! they played behind one of the hardest packs of all time and had outside them some of the greatest backs that ever played! Mcguire and the othe halfs before him havent had that luxury! the English/gb forwards with or without sinfield or wilkin fail to deliver time and time again! What you are saying about mcguire and burrow is what could be said about pretty much every half back for the last 20 years! you can't say they arnt up to it when 9 times out of 10 they play on the back foot!

Wilkin and sinfield are both ball playing forwards almost unheard of in oz! Until or front 5 and interchange big men can get the job done you can't blame them for not been right in the head! the ball players will keep getting dropped! It will be tomkin or eastmonds next! Different player same crap!

to suggest players like Westwood have something that mcguire, burrow, sinfield and wilkin don't with regards to mental toughness is laughable!

it's like me saying locky isn't tough enough for international rugby as he is too soft as he's always injured, his body is just not up to it!

he did. that's why he got man of the series. Which is why your claims were silly.

What has O'Loughlin done, consistently at international level, for you to make the cl;aims you're making?

In fact, he has ever got through an entire series? Hasn't he been in and out of the side and off the bench?

You talk about being able to handle the step up, Oloughlin's body can't handle SL let alone international rugby.

The Langer Stewart reference was raised in response to one of your learned posters claiming that there should not be pressure to perform at International level, and a player should not be dropped if they have a poor performance like McGuire did.

I highlighted them to show what pressures they were under at the top level if they had 1 bad game they were gone to be replaced by the other, which lead to the train of thought regarding ability to deal with the pressures of International rugby and what it takes to be an international player.

There was no comparison being drawn between them and the current/past England sides.

Injuries are a part of the collision sport we play, SOL does play it hard and tough which is why his game is suited to International rugby but i would agree this comes at an expense. I am not going to start crying because you have highlighted a flaw in his game its a good point and the evidence so far suggests you could be right.

See the post on the last page regards SOL.

Claiming Burrow has been consistent at international rugby because of a 3 week spell shows a certain level of nativity.

He has not performed to that standard prior to that series or since.

Sweet baby jesus.

No room at the inn with that one.

Certainly no wise man.

Shame Tony Smith is the England manger.

Definately not stable.

Glad we have resorted to picking apart spelling errors always a sign of desperation.

Worst poster ever.

Maybe he knows something about G1 we don't?

Some domestic success.

Some success in an international competition. You know, like man of the series for a start?

Be part of the international set up for a lengthy period. People bash Sinfield but he's been getting capped by many different coaches since 2000. Lets see if these new kids are around in

I heard Willie Talau was going to sign for Leeds next year, he loved touch & pass down at the Kirkstall base, but unfortunately he wasn't mentally upto the challenge of playing at Headingley.

Seem to remember him being left out in the International wilderness for quite some time to be honest.

I do not think all these new kids will be around in 10 years time i think there are certainly better outside backs coming through which is all good for the game.

I would hardly use selection to a very poor International team due to a weak domestic competition littered with overseas players and average to poor performance generally at that level a very high bench mark.

You've been shouting this everywhere over these forums. Can you please enlighten us as to how he's "Shut us all up"? As I remember it, most criticism surrounding Sinfield was that he didn't cut it as an International Loose. I'm pretty sure he went well last week at Hooker and not so well at Loose, giving further credence to the argument. A parallel can be drawn with Leuleui who similarly got criticised for his international performances at Scrum Half. The fact that he is a world cup winner at Hooker doesn't negate te criticism he received as an international half. It actually supports the argument....

Sinfield over the whole game was probably our 2nd best player. He was our second top tackler overall and although he was not outstanding in the first half which other forward was better? Burgess was good but made some mistakes. You admit he played well in the second half which was at loose forward and Hooker and stand off!! In fact his contribution was the single most important in winning the half and it was a shame Smith chose to rest him for a spell.

So why pick on Sinfield before most of the others in the pack?

Cos he plays for Leeds.







(And they're all flamin' jealous!!!)

Or more likely because the poster Sgt Wilko has being going on like Sinfield is some kind of rugby genius that has proved all his critics wrong off the back of a solid half of rugby spent generally away from the loose position.

I think most reasoned supporters would say that Sinfield played well last week, particularly when he moved into the dummy half (hooker) role.

I'm sick and tired of the scooter hooker and have been banging on about it for years, on all sites.

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Sorry,that lost,I mean last post was from Leon Pryce.

no I haven't I'm just saying most of the people who no little about the game who loved slagging sinfield have been made to eat some humble pie! with some world class plays in the England shirt when many said he didn't have it in him! Like his lack of mental toughness?

don't put words in my mouth bummber clot