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| Quote ="rhinos21"I'm sure the conditioning staff knew what they are doing.
Golding and walker could bring each other on over the next couple of years.'"
Need to remember the serious injury to Golding when he first started out.
I think the decision to play could be tactical. Golding when the defence needs bolstering I.E. Hull, Wigan, Castleford etc and Walker for the more attacking side I.E. Salford, Leigh etc
Rotate until one or the other develops their individual weaknesses.
Think this will be a fantastic scrap next year.
Golding will play where he is selected, not sure about Jack though - courtesy of the media of course
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| Agree rotating could be the right idea, but we know we are in a semi final now, so who would pick in that game?
Personally Im still unconvinced by Walker's defence, but as we know we will be tested next week I would use Cas as the acid test to whether we could trust him in a semi final.
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| Quote ="Sgy Loiner"That's the truth mate'"
Oh I know it is, but some people won't, that's what I'm saying.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I know he was offered the full back role and no 1 shirt plus 40 k a year. he also turned down hull after having a look around'"
Looks as though he'll be a very good player, but why would Hull make an offer? We currently have Shaul, Connor and a French kid called Miloudi who we've just given a professional contract who can all play fullback.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"For me Walker is a natural centre - his running style and awareness on the field are the skills all the great centres possess.
Centres are by far the most exciting players on field to watch - Walker is a rare talent it would be interesting to see him given a go at left centre'"
He has the class to play in any of the backs and certainly could make a great centre but these days centres have to make a high number of tackles and IMO this would take the edge of his attacking play due to his lighter physique and he could be wasted there if he didn't get much ball. So I think he has all the makings of an international stand off and he could provide the answer to our problems in this position.
Although he will grow stronger physically I would not want him to get too big as he could lose his zip and balance which are great assets. IMO Williams at Wigan looks to have lost a bit of edge with too much work in the gym.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Looks as though he'll be a very good player, but why would Hull make an offer? We currently have Shaul, Connor and a French kid called Miloudi who we've just given a professional contract who can all play fullback.'"
ask Radford. hull, Castleford and leigh made offers plus Melbourne and gold coast were in the background too
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| Quote ="TOMCAT"A fascinating and detailed account of what happened. But assuming this is true and not a wind up, I hope Jack gave you permission to reveal these details. If not then IMO you have let him down big time.'"
The amount of bo***cks that some people post on here, I've just put the record straight. If Jack was that bothered, he wouldn't have told me pal? Believe what you want, but I'm not one to claim to be in the know, it's all from the horses mouth.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"ask Radford. hull, Castleford and leigh made offers plus Melbourne and gold coast were in the background too'"
Spot on that mate. When I suggested 2 NRL clubs had made contact, I was ridiculed.
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| Quote ="Sgy Loiner"Spot on that mate. When I suggested 2 NRL clubs had made contact, I was ridiculed.'"
certain people me things and vice versa. I have never betrayed a confidence until now. the much ridiculed, by some, gotcha, gave me he self same info months ago pal. people like to argue and put people down with snide remarks on here. I find it pathetic really.
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| I think people are being a bit harsh on walkers defence. I think in his games he's made a few important tackles. And he's much faster than Golding. I would agree Golding currently is better in defence, but to say unconvinced by walker in my opinion is just a tad harsh.
As for who to play in the semi, with our non structured style of attack we are heavily reliant on players that can pull something special out of the bag. Golding isn't ever going to do that for us, he can't even break the line. Where as walker has scored quite a few tries in his short stint, I remember at least one being a match winner. Also the way he broke the line from nothing last week to create a try. That's the player we need in our side.
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| Quote ="Joshheff90"I think people are being a bit harsh on walkers defence. I think in his games he's made a few important tackles. And he's much faster than Golding. I would agree Golding currently is better in defence, but to say unconvinced by walker in my opinion is just a tad harsh.
As for who to play in the semi, with our non structured style of attack we are heavily reliant on players that can pull something special out of the bag. Golding isn't ever going to do that for us, he can't even break the line. Where as walker has scored quite a few tries in his short stint, I remember at least one being a match winner. Also the way he broke the line from nothing last week to create a try. That's the player we need in our side.'"
And there is the problem, Walker is the best in attack no question. However, he has yet to fully prove himself in defence in terms of try saving tackles. Whilst Walker has scored a few, Golding has saved a few. The scales are balanced at the moment for both players.
Personally,although I know Ashton, I prefer Jack's attacking style to watch. But then again a safe hand in defence in the semi's????
I think a previous post suggested Walker for the Car game. I agree. That will be the perfect test to see how he stands up to our potential grand final opponents!
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| Quote ="tad rhino" Castleford made offers plus Melbourne and gold coast were in the background too'"
Dot think so.
Walker clearly wants first team rugby sooner rather than later, preferably at full back.
We have the best full-back in the league contracted to 2022.
Looks to be a special player though.
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| Wasn't Golding subbed in his last game at Wakefield after a gutless carry that cost Leeds conceding a try and subsequently not selected since? Injuries aside Walker should retain the starting full-back role as he's comfortably the better all round option at this point.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Dot think so.
Walker clearly wants first team rugby sooner rather than later, preferably at full back.
We have the best full-back in the league contracted to 2022.
Looks to be a special player though.'"
100% he was offered a deal. he was tempted too
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| Quote ="tad rhino"people like to argue and put people down with snide remarks on here. I find it pathetic really.'"
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Oh I know it is, but some people won't, that's what I'm saying.'"
How are your Garbutt unlikely to be picked again rumours going lads???
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| feel free to point where I said he wouldn't
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| Quote ="tad rhino"feel free to point where I said he wouldn't'"
This.
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| Before the Hull game
Quote ="Frosties"Hopefully we see Garbutt back, but I generally doubt it.'"
Quote ="Tad Rhino"I hope so too but I won't hold my breath.'"
This
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Before the Hull game
This'"
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| I doubt it. not he wont.I also said, which you choose to selectively ignore, that I hoped when the dust settled it would be sorted.
and seeing as a current first team player was the one telling people about a fall out you would guess it had legs.
players and coaches have always had fall outs. this squad and coach aren't immune
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I doubt it. not he wont.I also said, which you choose to selectively ignore, that I hoped when the dust settled it would be sorted.
and seeing as a current first team player was the one telling people about a fall out you would guess it had legs.
players and coaches have always had fall outs. this squad and coach aren't immune'"
This again, it's getting very repetitive and boring now isn't it? Hence the block button being used.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"I doubt it. not he wont.I also said, which you choose to selectively ignore,'"
And I used the word "unlikely" which you choose to ignore and pretend I've said "he won't"
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| I hope the plan going forward isn't just about Golding vs Walker at fullback. They are two talented young players, and you'd ideally want both of them in the side for the long term. That means one of them moving to 6 or 7, which will only be possible if they get a game there. The worst outcome IMO will be one of them kicking their heels most of next year or ending up on loan at Fev or similar.
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| Couldnt get to the Cas game live, how did Walker show up? Would you play him in our semi?
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| Quote ="leedsnsouths"Couldnt get to the Cas game live, how did Walker show up? Would you play him in our semi?'"
I thought he went well. He was confident under the high ball and took some that Briscoe should really have come inside to claim.
I think he needs to be a bit more thoughtful with his involvement. He won't last long if he continues to take mid-set carries straight into the forwards. A few times he was smashed by the Cas defence and then struggled to get involved in the Moreno expansive play where he should be.
For his age, he looks like a very, very good player.
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