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| I'm quite new to this site so can anybody tell me why this Keith bloke even bothers to watch Rugby League as he seems to quite dislike it?
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| Quote ="Omar Little"Surely in the one division era there were plenty of uneven match-ups? (genuine question)
Also within my memory I can remember pretty uncompetitive pre-SL era seasons (eg 1994-1995).
I agree with your main point that its a completely different game now but it happened through gradual evolution not a step change (even if SL was a big step in that evolution). While it's impossible to truly compare players from different eras, records are records. IMHO you can't just pick and choose whether you compare them as their are too many factors - as you say theirs a more focus on attacking play an entertainment but on the other hand in the past kicking for goal from penalties (rather than going for a try) was more common with the try only being worth 1 more point.'"
Yes there were some easier matches too in the one division era. However I recall visiting Tattersfield Field, Clarence Street, Crown Flat and Mount Pleasant etc and having some almighty tussles, as it was their annual cup final when they played Leeds.
In my view there was just as great a concentration on try scoring and entertainment in the pre SL times. I do not have the comparative stats to show the number of tries scores in each era but I know Brian Bevan scored almost 800 trys in an 18 years and Eric Harris scord almost 400 in 9 years including 63 one year. I would say that individual attacking skills were better in the Jones era and certainly there were bigger crowds.
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| It's a truism but all records are meant to be broken.
It's only keyboard warriors who've never achieved anything of note in their own lives who pontificate about how the new record is somehow inferior to the old.
I'm absolutely convinced that Lewis Jones will be extremely gracious & complimentary in acknowledging Kevin Sinfield's feat.
The only record I believe that will never be broken is that of Sir Donald Bradman, but even he recognised the special talents of Gavaskar & Tendulkar.
Upon further reflection I can think of two further relevant records that I don't believe I'll see beaten in my lifetime, John Holmes' Leeds appearance record & Neil Fox's overall points scoring record.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"I'm quite new to this site so can anybody tell me why this Keith bloke even bothers to watch Rugby League as he seems to quite dislike it?'"
Just read what he say's then move on to more positive post's
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| Quote ="Keith Swiftcorn"Lots of anti Super League ramblings'"
Why do you bother with Rugby League at all, really?
If you honestly believe the product that is served is vastly inferior to that of yesteryear then why try to digest it?
My gran stopped eating chicken several years ago as she said "it just doesn't have the same taste as it used to", you are allowed to NOT watch Rugby League, you know that, right?
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| I was fanatical about football when i was a lot younger, disliked what the game had become so I stopped following it, makes sense really.
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| Lamb chops over here dont taste as nice as they do at home,very bland taste.Cant wait to get home and have some proper tasty lamb chops.The beer is awful too ,but cant wait to get home for Easter to see some Rugby league,my enthusiasm has not waned
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| Breaking a 50 year record is a fantastic acheivement. Breaking a record held by someone with Lewis Jone's class is a fantastic achevement.
Super League has been going 16 years and has had 4 different teams win the championship. In the ten years preceeding Super League two different teams had been champions. That is what super league was trying to address, not the previous 90 year history of the game.
In the 10 years prior to Super League there were three teams that won the challenge cup. In the first ten years of super league six different teams won the challenge cup.
Not that ANY of the above has any relevance to the acheivement of Sir Kev.
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| Away from any derailing, well done Sinfield model professional, exceptional leader and rugby player.
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| Sorry to repeat my post on another thread but Sinfield deserves it on his own Sir Kev thread.
Well done Kevin. It is entirely appropriate that he should be the one to overtake the record set by one of our greatest legends. I hope Lewis is able to present some memento to Kevin at a future home game. I have been privileged to witness many of the points scored by both players who apart from their class on the field are/were unassuming role models off the field.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Sorry to repeat my post on another thread but Sinfield deserves it on his own Sir Kev thread.
Well done Kevin. It is entirely appropriate that he should be the one to overtake the record set by one of our greatest legends. I hope Lewis is able to present some memento to Kevin at a future home game. I have been privileged to witness many of the points scored by both players who apart from their class on the field are/were unassuming role models off the field.'"
I agree.I noticed Lewis made a presentation to Kevin after he broke the goal scoring record,Although I think that was at end of season bash.I hope this time it will be done on the field so all the fans can share his moment.
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| As a Bulls fan and all banter aside, Kevin Sinfield = class, as a player and a man.
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| Quote ="JUDGE666"As a Bulls fan and all banter aside, Kevin Sinfield = class, as a player and a man.'"
Indeed he is. What a pity his unassuming attitude and humility isn't shared by the Leeds fans.
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| Quote ="JUDGE666"As a Bulls fan and all banter aside, Kevin Sinfield = class, as a player and a man.'"
Top post!
Sets aside a true fan of the game from the many blinkered and jealous numpties who constantly decry Sinny's fantastic ability and many achievements.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Indeed he is. What a pity his unassuming attitude and humility isn't shared by the Leeds fans.'"
...unlike some Hull fans whose humility and lack of assumption derive from a distinct lack of having anything to be unassuming or humble about.
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| What are all these Hull people doing here all of a sudden?I mean they havent just beaten us in a big game or anything like that.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"What are all these Hull people doing here all of a sudden?I mean they havent just beaten us in a big game or anything like that.'"
I think you will find that we were agreeing that KS has been and still is a great rugby league player. Do you have an issue with that?
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I think you will find that we were agreeing that KS has been and still is a great rugby league player. Do you have an issue with that?'"
Its just that its happened in the last two days thats all
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I think you will find that we were agreeing that KS has been and still is a great rugby league player. Do you have an issue with that?'"
Not at all. Just the trolls who can't resist doing it without having a dig elsewhere.
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| There's no doubt in my mind that, one day, we'll be watching Leeds games from the Sinfield Stand.
Arise Sir Kev!
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| Quote ="Chief Stinkwort"Not at all. Just the trolls who can't resist doing it without having a dig elsewhere.'"
Quite. But its not something thats unique to Black and White fans. I think you'll find many of your own are just as guilty.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"There's no doubt in my mind that, one day, we'll be watching Leeds games from the Sinfield Stand.
Arise Sir Kev!'"
I have no doubt there will be a permant tribute to Kev,but at the rate things get done as regards ground redevelopments ,it wont be in my lifetime
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