Is it SL appearances, or total appearances, surely he played in the cup game. I have him down on 12 already

Superleague site possibly it will be, and he may already have number 722 then.

723 to Jay Pitts? 1 last season, 9 this season (6 starts)

So it wasn't from what you recall but from what you'd just read then?

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=460325&start=0 Quote ="Tony Soprano"Give us the stats.'" Up to and including Round 17: SL Regular Rounds Top 4 1 - St Helens- Played 391, Won 285, Drawn 8, Lost 98, Pts For 12751, Pts Agst 7702, (Avg Score 33-20), Comp Points 576 (After Salary cap Deductions) 2 - Bradford - Played 391, Won 266, Drawn 12, Lost 113, Pts For 12041, Pts Agst 7673, (Avg Score 31-20), Comp Points 540 (After Salary cap Deductions) 3 - Leeds - Played 391, Won 264, Drawn 10, Lost 117, Pts For 11682, Pts Agst 7937, (Avg Score 30-20), Comp Points 538 4 - Wigan - Played 391, Won 260, Drawn 15, Lost 116, Pts For 11364, Pts Agst 7253, (Avg Score 29-19), Comp Points 529 (After Salary cap Deductions)

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=460325&start=0 Quote ="Tony Soprano"Give us the stats.'" Up to and including Round 17: SL Regular Rounds Top 4 1 - St Helens- Played 391, Won 285, Drawn 8, Lost 98, Pts For 12751, Pts Agst 7702, (Avg Score 33-20), Comp Points 576 (After Salary cap Deductions) 2 - Bradford - Played 391, Won 266, Drawn 12, Lost 113, Pts For 12041, Pts Agst 7673, (Avg Score 31-20), Comp Points 540 (After Salary cap Deductions) 3 - Leeds - Played 391, Won 264, Drawn 10, Lost 117, Pts For 11682, Pts Agst 7937, (Avg Score 30-20), Comp Points 538 4 - Wigan - Played 391, Won 260, Drawn 15, Lost 116, Pts For 11364, Pts Agst 7253, (Avg Score 29-19), Comp Points 529 (After Salary cap Deductions)

Noticed that we are the only team in the top four who have not cheated to achieve their position.

Here's the unofficial league table for the major Salary Cap infringers:

1 - Wigan 6 Pts
2 - Bradford 4 Pts
=3 - St Helens 2 Pts
=3 - Hull 2 Pts
=3 - Wakefield 2 Pts
=3 - Halifax 2 Pts




I've still to see an official list or explanation issued by the Leeds club although I fully accept they may have done and I've simply missed it.

Following on from Danny Buderus becoming number 720 in 2009, we've presumably seen Brett Delaney become 721 and Greg Eastwood 722 based on making ten 1st Grade Appearances.

Next in line would appear to be Pitts (9), Ambler (7), Clarkson (7) and McShane (5)

Its a shame he never played for us!

If you were to select a Leeds SL Era (All Comps) 1-17 based on the number of appearances in each position it would look something like this:

Full-Back - Brent Webb (94)
Wing - Mark Calderwood (133)
Centre - Chev Walker (125)
Centre - Keith Senior (331)
Wing - Scott Donald (135)
Stand Off - Danny McGuire (16icon_cool.gif
Scrum Half - Rob Burrow (206)
Prop - Ryan Bailey (131)
Hooker - Matt Diskin (220)
Prop - Barrie McDermott (190)
Second Row - Adrian Morley (114)
Second Row - Jamie Jones-Buchanan (112)
Loose Forward - Kevin Sinfield (214)
Subs:
Utility - Willie Poching (89)
Second Row - Ali Lauitiiti (10icon_cool.gif
Prop - Nick Scruton (61)
Prop - Jamie Mathiou (100)

Peacockan't be far off that list having been signed at the same time as Donald, though a number of his starts will have been at 2nd row too

The list is purely numerically based (the fact that Jamie Mathiou made the 17 is ample evidence of that) and a player like Nick Scruton made the bench only because Barrie McDermott (who had more substitute appearances than Scruton) had already made the run on side.

You draw a line in the sand and that is what you come with.



I'm away from the stats machine at the moment but IIRC Peacock has only fairly recently passed 100 starts for Leeds (and as you say some of those will have been in the back row)

Now that surprises me!

Shocked that Francis Cummins isn't in that team but then I forgot how many times he played full-back and centre, and even stand-off on occasion, as opposed to the wing.

The table covers the 483 Leeds games of the SL Era (1996 - Date)

Here are the Starting Full-Back Totals:

Webb (Brent) - 94
Mathers (Richard) - 87
Cummins (Francis) - 81
Harris (Iestyn) - 56
St Hilaire (Marcus) - 31
Connolly (Gary) - 29
Smith (Lee) - 29
Gibson (Damian) - 23
Tansey (Jordan) - 13
Gibbons (Anthony) - 9
Mullins (Brett) - 7
Walker (Ben) - 6
Holroyd (Graham) - 5
Maher (Lee) - 4
Jones-Bishop (Ben) - 3
Tait (Alan) - 3
Blackmore (Richie) 1
McGuire (Danny) - 1
Watkins (Kallum) - 1

Note: The McGuire appearance is not official as IIRC he was named on the wing with Mathers at full-back (Wigan FE Play-Off game 2003) but as my records are purely unofficial I allow myself some discretion on the odd occasion where it's apparent that the starting on field formation differs from the published team-sheet. (Ian Kirke being named at hooker while Kevin Sinfield took the acting half duties being another rare example.)



Yes Cummins suffered from his versatility in relation to both wingers selected as they both exclusively started there.

Cummins' totals by position:

Full-Back - 81
Wing - 124
Centre - 46
Stand Off - 4

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Just to further clarify the table is drawn up by overall position (full-back, wing, centre, stand off, scrum half, prop, second row, loose) rather than splitting right and left side, open and blindside.

well that's just lazy

On the contrary that would have taken less effort to compile.

Full-Back - Brent Webb (94)
Right Wing - Mark Calderwood (116)
Right Centre - Chev Walker (113)
Left Centre - Keith Senior (321)
Left Wing - Francis Cummins (105)
Stand Off - Danny McGuire (16icon_cool.gif
Scrum Half - Rob Burrow (206)
Openside Prop - Ryan Bailey (99)
Hooker - Matt Diskin (220)
Blindside Prop - Barrie McDermott (190)
Right Second Row - Jamie Jones-Buchanan (97)
Left Second Row - Anthony Farrell (96)
Loose Forward - Kevin Sinfield (214)
Subs:
Ali Lauitiiti (10icon_cool.gif
Jamie Mathiou (100)
Willie Poching (89)
*Nick Scruton (61)

(*Substitutes that would have made the bench before Scruton had they not already been in the run on side: McDermott (7icon_cool.gif, Bailey (76), Burrow (73), Jones-Buchanan (62)

Next opponents - Warrington

Leeds SL Era Record V Warrington

All Comps: All Fixtures
Played 36, Won 26, Drawn 1, Lost 9, Pts For 1030, Pts Agst 744 ..... Avg Scr (29-21) ..... 74%

All Comps: In Warrington
Played 17, Won 11, Drawn 0, Lost 6, Pts For 462, Pts Agst 395 ..... Avg Scr (27-23) ..... 65%

All Comps: Halliwell Jones
Played 8, Won 5, Drawn 0, Lost 3, Pts For 244, Pts Agst 179 ..... Avg Scr (31-22) ..... 60%

SL Reg Rds:
Played 33, Won 24, Drawn 1, Lost 8, Pts For 957, Pts Agst 694 ..... Avg Scr (29-21) ..... 74%

SL Reg Rds: In Warrington
Played 16, Won 10, Drawn 0, Lost 6, Pts For 432, Pts Agst 385 ..... Avg Scr (27-24) ..... 63%

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Leeds' Biggest Win: 54 - 16 (Headingley - 1st September 2006)
Leeds' Biggest Win In Warrington: 52 - 10 (Halliwell Jones - 15th April 2007)
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin: As Above 2nd Top
Leeds' Widest Winning Margin In Warrington: As Above 2nd Top
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Warrington's Biggest Win: 44 - 10 (Wilderspool - 16th April 2000)
..............................: 44 - 16 (Halliwell Jones - 1st May 2006)
Warrington's Biggest Win In Warrington: As Above
Warrington's Widest Winning Margin: As Above Top
Warrington's Widest Winning Margin In Warrington: As Above Top


Brian McClennan's Leeds record V Warrington: (All Comps)
Played 5, Won 4, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 114, Pts Agst 86, Avg Scr (23-17), 80%

Brian McClennan's Leeds record At The Halliwell Jones: (All Comps)
Played 2, Won 1, Drawn 0, Lost 1, Pts For 32, Pts Agst 36, Avg Scr (16-18 ), 50%

Tony Smith's Warrington record V Leeds:
Played 3, Won 0, Drawn 0, Lost 3, Pts For 52, Pts Agst 70, Avg Scr (17-23), 0%



Leeds W/D/L record V Warrington (All Comps) in sequence:

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Leeds W/D/L record V Warrington (All Comps) In Warrington in sequence:

W =#FF0000L W W W =#FF0000L L W W W W W =#FF0000L=#FF0000 L W =#FF0000L W

Leeds W/D/L record (All Comps) At The Halliwell Jones in sequence:
W W W =#FF0000L L W =#FF0000L W

Is that with or without poetic licence on the starting positions?

With.

I commented recently on Leeds players passing the 8,000 appearances mark of the SL Era. Over those appearances the number of times I have purposefully deviated away from what appeared to be the 'official' team-sheet positionally I could probably count on the fingers of both hands.

That said I have no access to 'official' team-sheets at all so use a variety of sources each week to formulate the team selected.

Readers, as always (and I've never stated otherwise) need to bear in mind the 'unofficial' nature of my contributions to this thread.

Good enough for me. BTW come CC semi weekend I'll be in Barkston visiting family. Didn't plan too well but hey ho, the Beeb will be showing it.

Appears a nice village. Only seen it while passing through mind, usually on the way to Cottesmore for a spot of 'bird' watching. Barkston Heath is a bit too quiet for my aviation tastes although the weekend gliders are different and still fascinating to watch.

CC semi weekend I'm in Dublin........ joke.

When was Bailey's last try tvoc? I remember him scoring against Cas and the Bulls in 06.

Then I'm pretty sure he got over the line against Hull but both were ruled out a couple of years ag.

According to [url=http://www.slstats.org/p315/Ryan+Bailey.html#Year_2007this[/url he scored 3 in 2007, the last [iBEING[/i against Wakefield

He's back. I little burnt on top but otherwise unscathed.

Ryan Bailey has scored 9 tries for Leeds in his 214 Appearances:

13-Mar-04 ….. CC ….. St Helens
08-Oct-04 ….. PO ….. Wigan
07-Aug-05 ….. SL ….. Leigh
07-Aug-05 ….. SL ….. Leigh
05-Mar-06 ….. SL ….. Castleford
26-May-06 ….. SL ….. Bradford
16-Feb-07 ….. SL ….. Hull
16-Mar-07 ….. SL ….. Wakefield
20-Jul-07 ….. SL ….. Wakefield




I think you've got your Hull and Hull KR's mixed up there. The game you are recalling was the opening SL game of 2008 (although technically a Round 4 fixture) V Hull KR at Headingley. The first was ruled out for a double movement and the second as he was adjudged held up. The video referee was Phil Bentham.

his naked run of shame is slowly becoming an annual event

I don't think he has anything to be ashamed about. In fact I think he quite enjoys it.

He had no need to pass to McGuire last Saturday.