had he signed for HKR, wakey or others then im sure this board would have been full of journey man aussie stops english youngsters progress threads.
and i would agree with them

No doubts at all but he's here now so do we support him or slate him??
Imo until performances show otherwise we should get behind the lad and see what transpires whilst he's here.

Nice to know that some people remember my previous posts.

Here's more info to answer some of questions asked on this site. All assumptions of course, but I do allot of digging.

Singleton will probably go to Wakey - I doubt he has a choice.
BJB has an injury (cardio related) and is unfit, so I expect Vickery will take his place.
Keinhorst and Hood are off to Hunslet as are some others but I don't know who the others are.

Journey man?! He's 23, played St George and Gold Coast!

a bad choice of phrase then, but i'm sure you get my drift

If Leeds are going to sign players from overseas, he's just the age they should be looking at.

The likes of Vickery and Achurch are the sort of players SL clubs are going to be able to attract these days.

Fringe first teamers, at the age where they want a shot at playing more regularly.

Similar route to that taken by Michael Dobson and Scott Dureau, who haven't turned out to be too bad for their respective clubs.

If what we are hearing is true about BJB.
Then I doubt we had any choice in signing Vickery.
The coaching staff clearly do not see Jamal as our next wingman just yet.
A 23 year old Aussie who can cover pretty much all the back line seems an ideal solution to me.
As regards to Singleton.
Surely if JP and Kylie retire at the end of the season he should be back with us.
Time will tell.

Ryan Hall doesn't have pace? News to me. Lee Penny had burning pace. Hall is the complete winger.

You didn't mean Lee Penny there, did you?

The fat kid who played full back for Warrington?

I think the comment was pace to burn.
He has some pace but rarely takes a man on the outside hence the comment.
I also said I would not swap him for any other SL winger as yes his strength is his strength so to speak.
Now John Atkinson he had pace to burn and strength and he was THE complete winger.

Lee Penny

I dont see any issue with this signing of vickery at all, a young, athletic, english winger who can cover various positions in the backline and won't be on a bucket load of money. Nothing to lose imo

Ryan Hall is without doubt the modern day complete winger,just as John Atkinson was his era

Ryan has far more to his game these days than just his strength though IMO, I think he has great attacking sense with his positioning,How many times does he leave his markers AWOL whilst he waltzes into score unopposed, like in this years GF when he skinned Joel Monaghan?

He is almost unstoppable when he is close to the try line and can finish in the very tightest of areas as Billy Slater found that out to his cost

The only other winger that is comparable to Ryan and in either code worldwide too is Brett Morris IMO

There's a winger currently playing for the All Blacks whose name escapes me who's extremely comparable but I do agree about Brett Morris.

Atkinson was a good winger, but no Boston, Vollenhoven, Bevan, Offiah etc.

Green Vigo made him look like a selling plater, get hold of a copy of 100 great tries.

As for Ryan Hall, a very good winger, but I wouldn't swap him for Josh Charnley who is younger, faster and more evasive.

A bit selective though.......
I agree 'that' try is a great one deserving to be included in the 'video tape' (though i've not watched it for a while)
But i don't think many people can remember Green for anything else.
Throughout his career Atkinson scored some great try's but wouldn't get in any Super League side if he was playing today.

Vigo scored three great tries that day, all on the video.
He should have been a great winger but sadly fell into bad company (some of those were in the Wigan team

) who showed him the wrong way to be a pro player. It's sad really because the "Vigo" type of player in the correct environment would be box office today.

Only one problem with Charnley - he can't defend!!

you must be the only person who wouldn't swop hall for charnley

Agreed.

I don't recall seeing Charnley's name on the World XIII teamsheet.

It's always the same with the Pies its impossible for anyone to have a better player than they do.

Charnley is overrated IMO............good SL winger playing in a very good SL squad.

Hall over Charnley every time

John Atkinson was a great winger, not good. Very dismissive of what he achieved, not just for Leeds but for GB.

I'm pleased you wouldn't swap Hall for Charnley because neither would I. Charnely is a good young player but Hall is the complete winger. Perhaps when Charnley puts in the kind of display against the Aussies that Hall did the other year you could realistically compare.

I read his post several times over, convinced it was a wind up! Leroy Rivett was faster and more evasive than Hall, not sure I'd rather have Rivett though!

Fact: my dad played in the same school team as John Atkinson!...and Ian Mcgeechan!