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| Injuries will have a part to play.
I would say we have the next 6 games to get points in the bank. If we leave it too late it could get extremely dodgy. It will also make it harder for us to plan for 2020.
If we can get Ward back fully fit it’s going to help.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"For me we need to beat KR LONDON and the Giants which should be enough given our pts diff.'"
In answer to both the above, the fixture list us favourable and i think 6-7 wins is achievable. I don’t nt think Huddersfield London or Hull Kr will win more than 3-4. But if London win 4 we have to win 5 and one more than hull kr to be sure, it also worries me that other sides shall we say wont try quite so hard to beat The others, so we gave to make sure we are well out of it and have some breathing room with 2-3 games to go. So by my logic 6 wins will do it.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"I think the thing that Sinny still has on his side is the Club teamwise has been going down the Swanny since 2016 ,but it looks like we haven't hit the bottom yet'"
I fear you may be right. Fingers crossed we can stay up, if so next year will still be very tough I reckon.
Given we have exited Watkins, moving others is obviously going to be very difficult.
At present we have a lot of players coming off contract end of 2020. Ablett, Tom briscoe, cuthbo, Dwyer, Myler, Parcell, peteru singleton and Ward.
Sinfield said it may take years and it may be 2021 to see much light.
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| Quote ="Mark Laurie"I fear you may be right. Fingers crossed we can stay up, if so next year will still be very tough I reckon.
Given we have exited Watkins, moving others is obviously going to be very difficult.
At present we have a lot of players coming off contract end of 2020. Ablett, Tom briscoe, cuthbo, Dwyer, Myler, Parcell, peteru singleton and Ward.
Sinfield said it may take years and it may be 2021 to see much light.'"
Obviously Parcell will be gone by the end of the week but replace his name with Lunt. I still believe that Ablett, JJB, Cuthbertson, Golding, Ferres will be gone at the end of the season, with the possibility of Singleton added to that. Ward and Peteru need a huge end of 2019 and 2020 to put themselves forward for new contracts after both have had their injury worries.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"In answer to both the above, the fixture list us favourable and i think 6-7 wins is achievable. I don’t nt think Huddersfield London or Hull Kr will win more than 3-4. But if London win 4 we have to win 5 and one more than hull kr to be sure, it also worries me that other sides shall we say wont try quite so hard to beat The others, so we gave to make sure we are well out of it and have some breathing room with 2-3 games to go. So by my logic 6 wins will do it.'"
I like your optimism but you think we’re going to turn around into a 60% win ratio...?
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I like your optimism but you think we’re going to turn around into a 60% win ratio...?'"
We are now rock bottom, we simply have to Win our next 3 games, we cannot rely on others losing games, we simply have to win more games than we lose otherwise we are gone.
Getting really worried now, because we are simply not winning any games.
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| Not looking good is it I see KR Nd London playing with passion and we never change .I'm not confident for Sunday just hoping for the best
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"Not looking good is it I see KR Nd London playing with passion and we never change .I'm not confident for Sunday just hoping for the best'"
Its a Hull derby I know everyone now thinks Hull Kr are home and dry but just remember they have been just as bad if not worse than us all season, yes they looked OK tonight at home against a hull side who didn’t turn up. They still could be at the bottom at the end of the weekend and we could be as high as 9th (thats not going to hsppen!)
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| That is a grim old Super League table.
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| You wont lose to catalans. They're woeful at the minute
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"You wont lose to catalans. They're woeful at the minute'"
So are we
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| Tony Smith working his magic. Does wonders a good coach
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| nothing to worry about. we have good old safe pair of hands agar. weve improved under him you know.
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| You do all realise Hull KR aren’t safe and dry don’t you? In fact they could still be bottom by the end of the weekend.
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| I reckon 5 teams are in the wringer; Wakey, Hudds, KR, London and us.
Wakey getting Tupou and Fifita back could turn their slump around, but their recent form has been poor.
Realistically, London are still the team to beat. But all those 5 clubs are in danger.
There is still time.
What a ridiculous position.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I reckon 5 teams are in the wringer; Wakey, Hudds, KR, London and us.
Wakey getting Tupou and Fifita back could turn their slump around, but their recent form has been poor.
Realistically, London are still the team to beat. But all those 5 clubs are in danger.
There is still time.
What a ridiculous position.'"
Wakey will be OK I think, Hudds must be getting worried though
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I reckon 5 teams are in the wringer; Wakey, Hudds, KR, London and us.
Wakey getting Tupou and Fifita back could turn their slump around, but their recent form has been poor.
Realistically, London are still the team to beat. But all those 5 clubs are in danger.
There is still time.
What a ridiculous position.'"
Ridiculous and worrying. Genuine question do you think we’d be in a stronger position this season (and planning for next) if McDermott hadn’t been ‘let go’?
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| no. it was right for him to go. his time had come. its decisions by hetherington and sinfield that have put us here
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| Quote ="christopher"Wakey will be OK I think, Hudds must be getting worried though'"
Deffo re Hudds
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| Looking at the first choice 17 of Leeds and KR I can’t see a single position where leeds are stronger, how have they let it slide to this.
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| Quote ="Seth"Looking at the first choice 17 of Leeds and KR I can’t see a single position where leeds are stronger, how have they let it slide to this.'"
Merrin is better than Lawler
Hurrell is better than either of their Centres
I would say Lui is better than Drinkwater
Ward is better than Tomkins
Slim pickings I know
Don’t get carried away that Hull KR have won a derby game, theyre still right there in the mix, losing to Lindon should show you that.
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| Merrin yes, Hurrell negated by the halves though see if that changes, not sure re lui and Drinkwater, ward doesn’t get on the field enough to warrent being better than anyone at the minute.
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| Quote ="Seth"Merrin yes, Hurrell negated by the halves though see if that changes, not sure re lui and Drinkwater, ward doesn’t get on the field enough to warrent being better than anyone at the minute.'"
You said first choice 17.
Anyway as I say if they're so much better than we are how have the got a worse points difference and could still be bottom by Sunday?
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| Some pressure on Leeds sunday.. i believe we'll win though. But theres more pressure after tonight
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| From now on it's the time for one of those Alex Ferguson comments
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