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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"To highlight that in moments of frustration, when we insult people, we dont always mean the literal interpretation of the word. Hardaker was wrong to use the word because it is a homophobic slur, that doesnt necessarily mean it had homophobic intent behind it. '"
Here you have it.
He used a homophobic slur. When you think of all the non-homophobic words he could have used to equal effect he didn't use them. He used a homophobic one. He need not have done. There are plenty of other insults to fling at someone in the heat of the moment but he didn't choose any of them.
I think he knew exactly what he was doing.
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| Quote ="Wheels"Of course it was written by the media department, I'd be very worried if it wasn't!
I don't think its an overzealous, miss-placed sense of social morality at all. He said something stupid in the public domain.
Of course he isn't homophobic, but he said a homophobic thing. He's a big daft lad.
He's apologised and is being dealt with accordingly. Everybody should now move on.'"
You locked the other interesting discussion but chip your two penneth into this one. BTW, he said something offensive, he didn't say something homophobic.
But your final sentence is spot on.
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| Quote ="G1"You locked the other interesting discussion but chip your two penneth into this one.'"
Aye, only because folk were going round in circles (and in some cases personal and abusive) on a subject with no evidence or substance to it.
Now this statement has been released, crack on...
Bear in mind I think thats the first thread I've locked in about three years, and I didn't even ban Gotcha in the end either!
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| Quote ="Wheels"
I didn't even ban Gotcha in the end either!
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Reconsider.
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| Quote ="Wheels"
and I didn't even ban Gotcha in the end either!
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| How far can the "big daft lad" defence carry one player?
Twice in nine months he's been a "big daft lad". A less talented player would currently be shopping for a new employer IMO.
If Leeds are that committed to equality and diversity, should they be looking to take some form of pre-emptive action against Hardaker - in public - now he's effectively admitted the offence?
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior" Had he left out the comments I highlighted I wouldn't have an issue.'"
With all respect, whether or not you have an issue isn't the issue. Let's face it, there are many - and I'm not saying they're wrong - who would remain dissatisfied however the apology was worded. What is important is that the statement makes it clear that ZH's behaviour was offensive and unacceptable and that he and the club recognise this. Let's face it; the statement is aimed more towards the impressionable than it is towards people like yourself who know better.
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| Anyone lip read what the Leigh player said to Zak as he scored his try...no doubt we'll have a moral outcry and clips on the VT any minute
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| Quote ="Him"Pretty much my view too.
If he does it again ban him for half a season.'"
He won't cop a ban. He is a Leeds player (not allowed).
Peacock won't get one either. (same reason)
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| Quote ="meatpaste"He won't cop a ban. He is a Leeds player (not allowed).
Peacock won't get one either. (same reason)'"
What's peacock need a ban for
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| Wasn't Ablett banned this week? Can't have been, he's a Leeds player.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"What's peacock need a ban for'"
you did just witness him throw multiple punches?
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| Quote ="Ferdy"What's peacock need a ban for'"
Grade C offence .Repeated violent punching. Thaliar saw it ( micro phone picked him up saying he saw the punches and he kept shouting 'Jamie pack it in') but as usual bottled a red card.
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| Peacock will get a ban.
Sorry if that, and the Ablett ban, is inconvenient to any conspiracy theorists.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"Grade C offence .Repeated violent punching. Thaliar saw it ( micro phone picked him up saying he saw the punches and he kept shouting 'Jamie pack it in') but as usual bottled a red card.'" never a red card. The Leigh lad saw an opportunity to put a shot on peacock, and snagged a foam into his face when he was on the floor, then buried his head in to peacocks. He was the aggressor, peacock finished it though
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| Quote ="The Eagle"never a red card. The Leigh lad saw an opportunity to put a shot on peacock, and snagged a foam into his face when he was on the floor, then buried his head in to peacocks. He was the aggressor, peacock finished it though'"
Agree it shouldn't be a sending off. But he will get a ban for it given what others have got done for this season.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"He won't cop a ban. He is a Leeds player (not allowed).
Peacock won't get one either. (same reason)'"
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| Quote ="The Eagle"The Leigh lad saw an opportunity to put a shot on peacock, and snagged a foam into his face when he was on the floor, then buried his head in to peacocks. He was the aggressor, peacock finished it though'"
And that should be the end of it. But we know it won't.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"He won't cop a ban. He is a Leeds player (not allowed).
Peacock won't get one either. (same reason)'"
Lol.
Whatever you do don't go out of your front door. They're waiting for you...
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| Fans of Championship clubs keep telling us the disciplinary treats them more harshly than SL clubs.
Let's see if Sarsfield's attack to the head of a grounded player with the arm, subsequent head butt and then "attempted" punching is punished more severely than Peacock's toe to toe punching shall we?
Oh, and had Thaler spotted the original offence and blown his whistle, none of that would have kicked off. Still, too much to expect that arrogant show pony to do his job.
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| Quote ="meatpaste"He won't cop a ban. He is a Leeds player (not allowed).
Peacock won't get one either. (same reason)'"
I DON'T BELIEVE YOU YOU ARE A LYAR
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| Hardaker has been charged with a grade E offence of using verbal abuse based on race/colour/religion/sexual preference.
That carries a potential ban of between 4 and 8 matches.
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| Thought there was an RFL conspiracy that made certain that none of our players got banned???
Along with Ablett, we're going to have arguably our best 3 players so far this year all banned for Hudds. One strange bloody conspiracy is that.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Thought there was an RFL conspiracy that made certain that none of our players got banned???
Along with Ablett, we're going to have arguably our best 3 players so far this year all banned for Hudds. One strange bloody conspiracy is that.'"
Maybe you guys have been seeing how far you can push it. Picking televised games to: kick someone in the head / punch people 3/4 times / scream 'homophobic' abuse may have been taking it too far?
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