Mason, Huby, Carvell, Graham, Ferriol, have were all having contracts expiring end of this season. I would have had any of those before Griffin.

A strike rate of better than 1 in 2? I'd suggest that the chairman of the PFU had a hand in here. Not exactly becoming behaviour of the shirt is it?

Agree fully with the above.

I'd rather have me than Griffin!!! Must be more BDLs around.

Is Tom going to souths also?

It only becomes a strike rate of better than 1 in 2 if you ignore the 70 games he played from the bench. I realise it's a generalisation but props have a tendency to play around half of each game they're selected in whether they start those games in the run on side or sat on the bench.

A comparison of strike rates among Leeds current/recently departed props during their Headingley careers show:

Jamie Peacock - 17 in 151 = 0.113 per game
Kylie Leuluai - 15 in 139 = 0.108
Luke Ambler - 1 in 10 = 0.100
Luke Burgess - 6 in 81 = 0.074
Ryan Bailey - 9 in 233 = 0.039

Ben Cross left without scoring and Kyle Amor, Brad Singleton are yet to score.

Leeds' prop with the highest strike rate during the SL Era was George Mann (although he deputised at 6 at times) here he is with a select of others:

George Mann - 4 in 19 = 0.211 per game
Jamie Thackray - 7 in 34 = 0.206
Wayne McDonald - 15 in 91 = 0.165
Barrie McDermott - 40 in 268 = 0.149
Chris Feather - 8 in 56 = 0.143
............
Jamie Mathiou - 4 in 136 = 0.029 (saving Bailey's blushes)

Chris feaher has a better "Strike rate" than I would have guessed at. At Baileys rate of scoring he will be below Mathiou by the end of his leeds career!

If Bailey's rate of scoring is above Mathiou's how will he be below Mathiou by the end of his Leeds career.

Unless he stops playing now it would seem pretty clear wouldn't it. He will play more games and therefore the strike rate will reduce.

Or have I missed something?

No thats how I worked it out, unless I am misunderstanding the more games he plays without scoring the lower his strike rate would get.

if he continues at the same strike rate of 0.039 his strike rate will be ......

yes you've guessed it 0.039. Which will still be higher than Jamie Matthiou at 0.029.

unless I am very wrong I would think the

has not been earned in this case!

you are very wrong

I get what you mean now, but wasnt what I meant. He hasnt scored for a few years now and if that continues and he continues to play then he will end up below Mathiou.

There is that better

But his strike rate for the last 3 years isn't 0.039. So if he follows the next 3 years the same rate of scoring as his last 3, then the rate will come down.

Bailey didn't score at all in 2009, 2010 or so far in 2011 so he's perfectly right to say if he carries on in that fashion he'll finish behind Mathiou.

Now that I agree with but that is different to



when Ferdy quoted the strike rate provided for Bailey

If he'd said "At Bailey's [icurrent[/i rate of scoring" that would have been more subjective and open to interpretation.

As clarified earlier that is infact what i meant. if bailey continues as he has for the last few years he will be below mathiou.

Thanks for being pedantic though!

Not being pedantic and you might note that my only reply after your clarification was to a point raised by Gotcha.

You quoted figures and made a comment. if your comment was not meant to reflect the quoted figures then you should have clarified. If you didn't don't blame someone elsre for having issue with your statement.

That worked out pretty well I thought.

All I can add is:

Classic Bailey

It's my major issue with a prop's quality. Try scoring ration.

No, really it is.

Don't think he's actually scored a try since 2007...closest he's come is probably the Cup Final last year

Ryan Bailey's 9 tries for Leeds:

13/03/2004 ..... CC ..... St Helens ..... Knowsley Road ..... Appearance Number 36
08/10/2004 ..... PO ..... Wigan ..... Headingley ..... Appearance Number 60
07/08/2005 ..... SL ..... Leigh ..... Hilton Park ..... Appearance Number 85
07/08/2005 ..... SL ..... Leigh ..... Hilton Park ..... Appearance Number 85
05/03/2006 ..... SL ..... Castleford ..... Headingley ..... Appearance Number 96
26/05/2006 ..... SL ..... Bradford ..... Odsal ..... Appearance Number 108
16/02/2007 ..... SL ..... Hull ..... Headingley ..... Appearance Number 124
16/03/2007 ..... SL ..... Wakefield ..... Belle Vue ..... Appearance Number 128
20/07/2007 ..... SL ..... Wakefield ..... Headingley ..... Appearance Number 144

That was 89 Bailey appearances ago which represents his longest wait to add to his tally.

Another indicator that Bailey's ability to win a collision and break a tackle, just like his go forward in general, is well below average

2004 was clearly his best season as reflected in his international call up's that year, but nothing worthy of mention ever since.

He's a player who sadly never kicked on, instead being content with being just an average SL player.