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| Quote ="rhino2009"After Hardaker's great performance against Wigan it surely must have convinced GH that he will be the Rhinos fullback in 2013. If that's the case we don't need Matty Bowen but a qualiy experienced centre. Junior Sa'u is available, is he worth chasing and someone on another forum mentioned Blake Feruson but don't know how reliable. Anybody else in the NRL and OOC who would improve our team as left centre?'"
After Hardaker's performance last Sat I'm not even sure I'd be happy if Leeds miraculously signed Billy Slater.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Well it looks like we can finally knock the Chase rumours on the head. He looks set to sign for the cods.'"
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| I am not sure on who we are signing. As loads of people have said a Ali type player in the back row wouldn't go Amis, but there aren't many available. Regarding a centre I just am not sure anymore. Ablett for me is still better in the pack, but he is performing well at centre and hall seems to be doing well outside him.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"I am not sure on who we are signing. As loads of people have said a Ali type player in the back row wouldn't go Amis, but there aren't many available. Regarding a centre I just am not sure anymore. Ablett for me is still better in the pack, but he is performing well at centre and hall seems to be doing well outside him.'"
Like you I'm confused with who we are suppose to be signing. I think a quality, experience centre would improve the team. I would move Ablett to the back row which he himself prefers. There are some rumours that we are interested in Blake Ferguson from the Raiders. He currently plays in the centre but is better known as a winger. I agree about an Ali-type player in the back row. The rumour of a big signing from the NRL has gone quite!
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| Quote ="rhino2009"Like you I'm confused with who we are suppose to be signing. I think a quality, experience centre would improve the team. I would move Ablett to the back row which he himself prefers. There are some rumours that we are interested in Blake Ferguson from the Raiders. He currently plays in the centre but is better known as a winger. I agree about an Ali-type player in the back row. The rumour of a big signing from the NRL has gone quite!'"
I just can't see a big signing from the NRL. They have more cap sPace and with interest rates the way they are money isn't going to tempt any big name. The only player type I can see coming is a ageing player for a hol to see Europe. A bad boy seeking a break from press law etc.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"I just can't see a big signing from the NRL. They have more cap sPace and with interest rates the way they are money isn't going to tempt any big name. The only player type I can see coming is a ageing player for a hol to see Europe. A bad boy seeking a break from press law etc.'"
I agree. With referernce to your last sentence of course that's how we got Ali!
The signing could be a big name in the NRL who falls into one of those catogories (or both!). There are lots of names who it could apply to?
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| Quote ="speccyrhino"www.sportinglife.com/rugby-league/news/article/480/7904088/tigers-stay-for-moltzen
Well this link should change our debate a bit.............'"
The news on Moltzen came out last week. I think with Hardaker playing so well at fullback, if there is to be a signing in the backs now it could be a centre. Gary H says there's a few names on the list and I suppose it's whose available and wants to play in SL. There's also a possibility of a quality prop/second row being signed if available.
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| On forum 606v2 it has been posted that Leeds are believed to have signed a major NRL star but club has not confirmed player involved. Who?
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| That list isn't exactly exciting to be honest.
Nothing really fulfils our needs.
Perhaps Moimoi?
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| Mick Crocker?
Willie Mason?
Both would be pretty big signings. I'm not sure about Stewart, he's had an average season by his standards IMO.
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I'd of thought Brett Stewart would be in big demand for another NRL club. Other big name players, which we could tempt from that list are Fuifui Moimoi (32), Michael Crocker (32) and Matt Utai (31).
The 2013 list looks a lot more appealing, but i doubt Inglis, Tonga, Tate, Pritchard or Thurston etc would come over. Interesting to see Reed, Widdop and Sam Burgess are off contract, but doubt they'd come over/back. There are a few good centres in the 2013 list, so maybe we've done a deal for one of them. Jerome Ropati or Junior Sa’u have looked good in the small amount of games i've seen them in.
Sosaia Feki and Siuatonga Likiliki did catch my eye for 2012 though
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I'd of thought Brett Stewart would be in big demand for another NRL club. Other big name players, which we could tempt from that list are Fuifui Moimoi (32), Michael Crocker (32) and Matt Utai (31).
The 2013 list looks a lot more appealing, but i doubt Inglis, Tonga, Tate, Pritchard or Thurston etc would come over. Interesting to see Reed, Widdop and Sam Burgess are off contract, but doubt they'd come over/back. There are a few good centres in the 2013 list, so maybe we've done a deal for one of them. Jerome Ropati or Junior Sa’u have looked good in the small amount of games i've seen them in.
Sosaia Feki and Siuatonga Likiliki did catch my eye for 2012 though
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Mick Crocker?
Willie Mason?
Both would be pretty big signings. I'm not sure about Stewart, he's had an average season by his standards IMO.'"
Crocker's 32 and Mason is a pillock. Luke Lewis would be good, but somewhat unlikely
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| Has Crocker mastered time travel?
He looked about 40 when he came over with the Roos in 2003!
He would need his own parking space at Red Hall though...
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"Has Crocker mastered time travel?
He looked about 40 when he came over with the Roos in 2003!
He would need his own parking space at Red Hall though...'"
Didn't Hull sign him a couple of years ago and he couldn't get a visa?
Stewart was rumoured to want out of the NRL but have massive French RU offers on the table. Wouldn't mind if his brother came over instead.
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| If the team plays as consistently well as it did last Saturday then I can see no reason for signing an expensive quota player unless it's a line breaking second rower in the Ali mould.
Ablett is looking ever more like a decent centre (better than second rower), at least at SL level. If Watkins can stay fit and Keinhorst fulfills his apparent potential then there is even less need.
Props are less of an issue if Bailey and yes, gulp ! Kirke continue to perform. We still have the option (for not much longer mind) on Amor, as well as Singelton and Smith (David or even probably Lee these days )
Hardaker: say no more.
Consistency is however the BIG if.
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| Crocker has an affray conviction that may stop him getting a UK visa IIRC
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| Russell Packer would be a good signing from NZW.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Didn't Hull sign him a couple of years ago and he couldn't get a visa?
Stewart was rumoured to want out of the NRL but have massive French RU offers on the table. Wouldn't mind if his brother came over instead.'"
Yep, we did. Was a farce. I think the visa procedure is slightly less stringent now, but it was a major disappointment.
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"If the team plays as consistently well as it did last Saturday then I can see no reason for signing an expensive quota player unless it's a line breaking second rower in the Ali mould.
Ablett is looking ever more like a decent centre (better than second rower), at least at SL level. If Watkins can stay fit and Keinhorst fulfills his apparent potential then there is even less need.
Props are less of an issue if Bailey and yes, gulp ! Kirke continue to perform. We still have the option (for not much longer mind) on Amor, as well as Singelton and Smith (David or even probably Lee these days
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Consistency is however the BIG if.'"
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| Its amazing what a good performance does for people's expectations. Suddenly plenty of people are suggesting we have good options at Fullback, Centre and even suggesting Kirke doing a good job at Prop. I think that if there are class players available in any of the positions we should try to sign them. A couple of good games shouldn't necessarily shape what we want to do on a longer term basis
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| I think the judgement on Hardaker or Ablett isn't based on just one game.
The judgement on Kirke however is a sharp about face for those who wrongly singled him out as a whipping boy.
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| Hardaker is the answer for full back. If Ablett wants to make centre his first choice position then we do not require a centre.
A player who can play both hooker/half back would be nice, an Ali style second row and a monster prop. I'm still not 100% on BJB, although he has played well lately and I think he plays better alongside Watkins.
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